Push Notifications for Schlage Lock Not Working (April 2019)

Checking in to see if there is a solution. I have replaced a hub, replaced a lock, updated my device manager and LUM. Still no notifications. I have 3 hubs and 3 locks…different properties. The only one that works properly and sends notifications has a MSR identification number under the data section when I am logged into the smart things dashboard online (can’t see it on the app). I don’t know how to get the MSR for the 2 non functioning units. I tend to think there is something in the device manager that is causing an issue, but I am unable to delete it from an individual hub or an individual lock. I hate to delete it from all three because at least one is working. Has anybody tried deleting the device manager? My next step is to abandon Schlage and try a different lock which is too bad because I really like the lever lock. Hoping somebody has figured this out and can share some advice.

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This usually indicates a problem with your mesh. Did you try adding a buffering device like a repeater close to your lock as suggested by @hunnypuppy in the post above? That usually solves most issues with mesh communications.

I get door unlocked notifications without issue from my FE599NX CAM 505.
No 3rd party device handlers or apps in use.
Alerts set up in Smart Home Monitor in Classic app, under the Custom choice / New Monitoring Rule.
Note the Custom choice is not available in the new app, only Security, Smoke, and Leaks.

can you screenshot the msr id thing for me but redact the number it self i want to see what it looks like on the online interface. I clearly have the same issues you are having and i don’t have a working one to show for it. eyegirl I have the same exact issues at around the same time as you. if you find a fix please let me know and i will do like wise. I am also contacting schlage support as well since the smartthings tech i been in contact with says my lock is the issue not smartthings. I WILL GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS. Due to the fact that this is the only lock that fit my needs. ( lever, no deadbolt, no glass)

Just saw this thread. I have similar issues. I thought it was my fault since the battery was drained. Replaced batteries, did a lot of exclusions, resets and pairings. It seems to have paired correctly this morning before I left for work.

Thats when I noticed that the app was not communicating with the hub correctly and not just with the lock. Any command was not being followed unless I closed the app and then the command went through. I guess I didn’t notice this before since all interactions have been with Alexa or sensor event driven.

Anyone else having this issue?

the MSR isn’t a secret number, it just the manufacturer specific id, which is in plan speak the model number of the lock. For the FE599 it should be 003B-634B-504C

If you don’t see the MSR or if it’s null or blank that indicates a problem with the mesh communications, some of the commands or responses are being lost in the mesh.

Another thing to check is the raw description and if the mfr, prod or model is null, empty or 0000 that too indicates a communication problem with the mesh and the hub, infact that’s more severe since it indicates that the pairing did not complete properly.

There are many symptoms for this, including programming issues and lack of notifications which are the most common symptoms.

The best way to resolve such issues are to reboot the hub, add a repeater within 20ft of the lock and try to pair the lock again. You may want to see this article which explains how mesh and buffers works and how lack of buffering causes issues with the mesh which leads to issues such as what you’re facing.

Also when pairing the lock, you should reboot the hub first and then pair the lock within 5ft of the hub ideally to avoid signal issues (reflections, inteference etc as pairing is very timing sensitive).

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Has anyone figured out this issue? It seems to only be FE5599 model that isn’t working (the level type door). I have three of those (one in my house and two in my cottage) none of them will send a notification when a user code is used. I can lock and unlock from phone and change codes, etc.). I have a deadbolt type that works fine with all user notifications ( BE469)

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PS - I have already added an extender and reset the locks. Nothing has worked.

I do have the monoprice z wave repeater recommended by rboys. I have also gone through the process of unpairing the device, rebooting the hub, and repairing the device…multiple times. The notifications that aren’t received are always the ones stating who (which code) opened the door. The open/close sensor sends me notifications, but I need to know who actually opens the door…guest, cleaner, etc. Schlage states that their lock works well with smartthings, but they don’t troubleshoot the rboys app. It does seem that there is a problem with the pairing, but none of the solutions offered have solved the problem.

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Did this work for you? I have tried multiple times and still can’t get this one lock to work. If someone is able to successfully accomplish the pairing it would be reassuring.

We have a bunch of FE599’s here and there are thousands of folks using them, so the lock per se works and sends the user notifications, but we have seen reports of missing notifications which are caused by 3 typical reasons:

  1. Mesh issues which are addressed by the repeater as explained above. A typical symptom of this is you’re not seeing or seeing intermittent event activity being logged in the Recently tab of the lock page in the ST Classic app.
  2. Faulty locks - bad chipsets. A typical symptom of this is is that you don’t see any event activity being logged in the Recently tab of the lock page in the ST Classic app.
  3. Incorrect device handler - due to changes in the hub firmware made earlier this year it broken many older device handlers. Check that your lock is using either the stock device handler or the Enhanced Z-Wave Lock device handler which was updated to be compatible with the new firmware hub. A typical symptom of this is you’re seeing event activity being logged in the Recently tab of the lock page in the ST Classic app, but you don’t see the user name or slot number.

If after adding the repeaters, moving the hub away, rebooting, re pairing etc you still don’t see the user events and if you’re using either the stock or the enhanced z-wave lock device handler (which you mentioned that you were using it), it could be just a bad lock.

You mentioned that you’re getting the open/close notifications. Those don’t come from the lock, they come from the door sensor. Are you getting a lock/unlocked notification? If not then it’s either 1 (mesh issue) or 2 (bad lock chipset) above.

Another way to test it would be to exchange the locations between your working lock and non working lock. If it starts working the it’s definitely a mesh or interference problem. If not, it’s possibly a bad lock.

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@RBoy @TomSBos @eyegirl @greencat So we are all having bad chipset? Because I went and bought a zwave repeater with “beaming” to test your theory. And it is still not working. I even went as far as to buy a new lock and it did not work.

But one good thing did come out of this. I got into Home Assistant and guess what? I bought a zwave dongle for the Home Assistant and connected the lock to the Home Assistant hub. It lock and unlocks using Home Assistant however when I manually lock and unlock not only is Home Assistant not getting status update, there wasn’t even any events detected.

What really pissed me off is it was working SO WELL until it didn’t. It already spoiled me with that lifestyle and I can’t live without it anymore.

I am contacting Schlage right now regarding this. But so far I really went out of my way to make this work already. If Schlage can’t fix it all I can do now is wait for the next lever lock with similar features. If you guys have any recommendations please let me know!!! My requirements are simple “Lever Lock”, “fits normal american doors”, and "unlocks quick unlike Yale Lever Lock. LOL

Can you please let us know what Schlage says. I have three of the lever type lock. I can unlock from device and lock from device - even change codes - but they will not tell me when someone uses a code - it also takes it’s time (about 1/2 hour) to notify me that someone has unlocked the door manually. My deadbolt one in the garage works perfectly and as expected.

@eyegirl @TomSBos @Rubin_Chen @greencat any luck in getting notifications working in your setups since your last posts?

Chock me up to another user that’s tried for over a year now and back and forth with RBoy support with still zero success in getting code/user-specific notifications working across two different Schlage FE599 locks, one Schlage BE369NX deadbolt, 3 different hubs (two v2 ST hubs, one v3 ST hubs), 2 plug-in Z-wave outlet switches/repeaters, one Honeywell Z-wave hardwired outlet, and more Z-wave repairs than I care to remember.

To be clear, everything else with the RBoy apps works great for automatic code generation, integration with booking platforms, and time-based routine triggers and they continue to be one of the best investments I’ve made in automating rentals.

However, real-time user/code-specific notifications or actions remain completely missing in action in any of the new test environments I setup. Effectively nothing shows in the “Recent” tab of classic SmartThings app or the live logging inside of the SmartThings Graph device logging. The fact that I’m working in smaller, < 1500 square foot spaces also adds to the issue of moving the SmartThings hub far enough away from the door locks to get the door to talk to the hardwired repeater instead of the hub directly (which is the only thing left that I can imagine would cause the repeaters to be ineffective). And there is definitely no specific Z-wave mapping tools out there like we have in the WiFi space that anybody is aware of?

I’ve long speculated this may be due to the Schlage FE599 / BE369NX only remaining unlocked for a short ~5 second period when unlocked via user codes. That seems like a crazy short timeframe for the hub to ping the device and realize a code has been entered and the lock status changed, but from what I’ve read it’s actually the lock that should be notifying the hub versus the regular polling frequencies/values I see broken out in the SmartThings Graph, correct?

For what it’s worth, I had previously used some automated lock smart apps from ethayer, but long since removed them from the account so I would not expect them to be impacting current conditions.

Since there’s several of us here that appear to be stuck in the nonfunctional state, here’s a detailed example of log events over last hour of manually entering in user codes into the lock keypad, but seeing no configured actions/notifications display:

Additionally, here are both hardware, apps, and versions I’m running that are failing to trigger user/code-specific notifications:

SmartThings Hubs

  • Hub #1: Firmware Version: 000.028.00012. Hardware Version: Hub v2 US
  • Hub #2: Firmware Version: 000.028.00012. Hardware Version: hub v2, US customer Rev E
  • Hub #3: Firmware Version: 000.028.00012. Hardware Version: Hub v3 US

Locks

Outlet/Repeaters

Software

Hi Cliff,

No. I have never been able to get notifications to work. I’ve done everything suggested (resetting, a repeater, etc) works perfectly with my dead bolt but will not work for my handle locks. It will notify me if I unlock the door from my phone. The handle locks will accept code changes, etc. it just won’t tell you when someone has used a code to enter.

@clifster @TomSBos
Schlage sent me another lock with same issue so i gave up on it. I still use the lock but in conjuncture with a ring doorbell. For what its worth i recorded events with “home assistant” and didn’t see anything when the locks were unlocked. It must have been edited it out of the firmware.

Home Assistant is a free to use open source project to connect the different integrations together. I connected the lock directly to home assistant and didn’t receive any events when unlocking.

@clifster please tell me if the monoprice repeater does the job. Also have you tried this? Aeotec Range Extender 6, Z-Wave Plus repeater https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M6CKJXC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_mg3kEb24SBNE1
It got beaming technology apparently i will test this one.

I can tell you that notifications work with wink.

Wait are you saying if i buy a wink and connect it it will just start working? also which hub? the hub 1 or hub 2 please link if this work i will e-kiss you LOL @TomSBos

Lol. I had the wink 1 hub and it would alert when someone used a code. Hub got bricked a few years ago. Let me know if it works for you.

Aeotec Range Extender 6 didn’t seem to have any effect on the problem. So I guess its back to the drawing board… I don’t understand why don’t any other company make a lock like Schlage’s instant click unlock lever lock. just add wifi to this lock and i will gladly pay another $300