Update Required: New Sonos Integration

Nezmo · September 17, 2019, 8:24pm

Didn’t see this posted already.

From SmartThings:

"We are pleased to announce that Sonos is now officially supported by SmartThings! Together, Sonos and SmartThings are launching a new and improved integration that includes audio notification improvements and local execution for a faster and more stable connection.

We have identified that you are currently using the legacy Sonos integration, which will soon be deprecated.

Action Needed

In order to prevent any impact to your current setup, manually update your Sonos speakers to the new integration with these steps:

Remove the speakers and reconnect them using the new SmartThings app
Update any existing SmartApps or Automations that control your Sonos speakers

OR

Sign in to graph.api.smartthings.com, select Locations > Devices > Sonos speaker > Edit > Type dropdown list > LAN Sonos Player Websocket > Update

If you do not take action by October 17th, your Sonos integration will be automatically updated. Any SmartApps or Automations that have not been updated may no longer continue operating correctly.

Contact us on support.smartthings.com if you have any questions or need assistance updating your speakers.

The SmartThings Team"

Nezmo · September 17, 2019, 8:29pm

But I guess the thread below ought to be highlighted as well. If I read it correctly it looks there are some problems with this update.

SONOS not working as before Devices & Integrations

Hello! I am experiencing difficulties to program my SONOS in scenes wich I have not had before. I can not turn it on/off in a scene. I have managed to do it before but not now. Configuration A: Configured for about 3 months ago. When I paired the sonos it came in as a LAN sonos played in the web interface as a device handler. When creating scenes I had the option to turn it on/off. Configuration B: I tired to configure it yesterday. This was with a new hub in an appartment I had not configured before. When I paired the SONOS it came in with the device handler LAN sonos player websocket. With this device handler I was only able to chose the volume and Silence mode on/off. I changed the device handler to LAN sonos player but after that I had no contact with the SONOS player from the sm…

prjct92eh2 · September 17, 2019, 8:32pm

yeah, it would appear there are some…gaps in communication… for the change. Sounds like it works fine with the new app, but not so well with older smart apps.

blhoward2 · September 17, 2019, 8:33pm

So, changing the device type to the new one removes the “Speak Text” action in WebCore. And I don’t see anything similar in the new command set. Does anyone know of a workaround?

prjct92eh2 · September 17, 2019, 8:34pm

Can you post a list of the new commands and capabilities?

blhoward2 · September 17, 2019, 8:43pm

It looks like it gains additional grouping abilities, but loses some things like Speak to Text.

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Nezmo · September 17, 2019, 8:43pm

SONOS not working as before Devices & Integrations

Hi everyone - I can help shed some light on the recent updates to Sonos. Today we announced a new, WWST (Works With SmartThings) and WWS (Works With Sonos) certified integration for Sonos devices. Unlike the previous Sonos Labs integration that relied on Sonos’ undocumented and unsupported UPnP API, this is a completely new, locally executing integration using WebSockets (thus the new DTH name, LAN Sonos Player WebSocket). I can confirm that the new integration does NOT use the Music Player capability. Music Player is a deprecated capability and will no longer be used for any new WWST integrations. As some here have already pointed out, LAN Sonos Player Websocket uses the following capabilities to replace Music Player: Media Playback Media Track Control Media Presets Media Group Aud…

HA_fanatic · September 17, 2019, 9:10pm

Wow, this is a great enhancement. The TTS is super fast and playTrackAndResume doesn’t actually break the currently playing track. Looks like switch capability was also removed. But most importantly:

blhoward2 · September 17, 2019, 9:15pm

How did you get TTS to work? In which SmartThings app? WebCore?

HA_fanatic · September 17, 2019, 9:22pm

The new app, custom automation.

grayzweb · September 18, 2019, 2:38am

Custom automation in the new app is very limited.
I was using Webcore to Speak notification on Tuesdays at 8pm.

The new app let’s you pick a time, but no day, or schedule.

jkp · September 18, 2019, 2:48am

Android or iOS?

here is what I see on iOS…

HA_fanatic · September 18, 2019, 3:02am

Looks like the new app is unable to handle the new Sonos DTH for other than notification. If you want to play a track when something happens, you cannot select the new Sonos devices. Has anyone tried the first method? I just switched the DTH in IDE (second method).

grayzweb · September 18, 2019, 3:06am

Ok yes it is there Thanks!

mgabreski · September 18, 2019, 5:42am

Hmm. Does anyone know how to control the volume on “Audio notification” in the new app > custom automation? It’s way too loud but I can’t seem to limit it.

alicchen · September 18, 2019, 6:49am

Also recently updated the device handler after receiving this notification. It’s unfortunately broken many of my routines that include Sonos. I’m still using the classic smart things app. A few missing features in the upgrade:

Speech to text is no longer an option as others have noted
Routines can no longer turn off/stop speakers
Smart Home Monitor can no longer sound the alarm on Sonos speakers as it no longer lists then as Audio Devices. This is pretty key since it’s part of my home alarm system.

I’m worried these are issues that are limited to classic app users. I’ve been hesitant to migrate to the new Smart things app given all the issues I read about early on and all the various integrations and customizations I’ve made over the years. But this might require me to bite the bullet. Would appreciate thoughts/advice from those using this new integration with the new Smart things App.

kewashi · September 18, 2019, 5:56pm

So I also migrated my Sonos device type to the new “Websocket” version and no longer have TTS features in my routines including BigTalker2 and WebCore. I understand from the posts above that automations using the new app give you this feature. I have the new app so my question is can I build an automation in the new app and still keep using the old one for other stuff that doesn’t yet work in the new one. I hope yes. Has anyone blended the two together like this? If not, can anyone think of another way to get text to speech on Sonos after migrating to the new integration? One option is to use the Hubitat integration which is also local and still supports TTS. The problem with this approach is I still have most of my motion and door sensors on ST.

prjct92eh2 · September 18, 2019, 5:58pm

you can use any blend of new app automations and classic/groovy automations.

kewashi · September 18, 2019, 6:16pm

Thanks … although as others have noted the new app didn’t seem to have TTS as an option.

prjct92eh2 · September 18, 2019, 6:24pm

in custom automations, choose notify members as the action (THEN) and then choose audio notification. See if that works.