OSRAM LIGHTIFY Light turning on by itself

Hilly_2015 · November 9, 2017, 7:00pm

Afraid not. Think you’ll have to wait for a hub update like @jhamstead suggests.

Titch · November 9, 2017, 7:03pm

watching one on ebay see if i can get it cheap enough

Louage · November 9, 2017, 8:56pm

The latest update may not resolve this issue - though if you have other zigbee devices the later firmware updates will resolve the other well documented repeater buffer overflow issues (the light and any connected devices go offline until restarted).

The gateways go cheap on eBay - if you buy second hand and the previous owner didn’t deregister it, an email to lightify@osram.com will allow you to use it on your own account.

cupofjo · November 12, 2017, 5:03am

Same is happening with the Lightify outdoor flood lights. I have two connected - one newer bulb & one I’ve had for a few months. I updated both of them with the Osram hub 1.5 weeks ago, yet the older bulb still comes on at random times. It has a rule so it should only turn on if a shed door is opened during the night hours. The newer bulb seems to be responding as expected thus far.

netsheriff · November 12, 2017, 7:10am

I had the same problem with a RGBW Lightify bulb. I changed to Sticks18 to Lightify Bulb v2 DTH and the problem has gone away.

Works on a GU10 bulb as well.

Osram/Sylvania Lightify (it works) Connected Things

Osram just released a new line of zigbee light bulbs called Lightify. Temperature tunable white only. About $30 each. Here’s the kicker: the Hue bridge won’t pair with them, with or without ST. So either they’re not ZLL certified and don’t know the secret handshake (in which case ST might become able to pair even if Hue bridge can’t) or they’re using the no color temperature tunable device type instead of the no color dimmable device type. (ZLL has a lot of different bulb device classes. ) Or both of the above are true. Anyway, I wouldn’t expect them to work with ST yet, but if someone knows different, let us know. @tyler , is ST supporting all ZLL device classes, or just some? CNET has a detailed comparison with other brands.

github.com

sticks18/Lightify-Bulb/blob/master/Lightify_Bulb_v2.groovy

/**
 *  Osram Lightify Bulb (Color Temp Adjustable)
 *
 *  Copyright 2014 SmartThings
 *
 *  Licensed under the Apache License, Version 2.0 (the "License"); you may not use this file except
 *  in compliance with the License. You may obtain a copy of the License at:
 *
 *      http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0
 *
 *  Unless required by applicable law or agreed to in writing, software distributed under the License is distributed
 *  on an "AS IS" BASIS, WITHOUT WARRANTIES OR CONDITIONS OF ANY KIND, either express or implied. See the License
 *  for the specific language governing permissions and limitations under the License.
 *
 */
 
metadata {
	definition (name: "Lightify Bulb v2", namespace: "Sticks18", author: "Scott Gibson") {

		capability "Actuator"

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Hilly_2015 · November 12, 2017, 8:55am

Thanks - will give it a go.

One light came on last night despite using the updated firmware so it’s not that.

Ringworm · November 12, 2017, 1:43pm

Having the same issue the past few days. I have 6 bulbs in the front outside of my house. Out of those 6, there are three that will randomly turn on, and it’s not consistent- sometimes the garage center, a few mins ago when i got up it was the porch east and west.

I did have the problem of the garage east bulb dropping off the network. It is the furthest bulb from the hub. I bought an Iris smart plug and put that in the garage, and I also discovered the thread about updating the firmware. That bulb was out of date, the rest are on target. So, between the plug and the firmware that problem was solved, but still having the random turn-on issue.

I also noticed that Alexa is pinging the bulbs a lot, sending a refresh command. It will often send 2 pings in a row every 4 minutes like clockwork. Brought this up to them and they said they’re receiving LOTS of complaints about this issue, and are looking into it. The app update (iOS) yesterday did nothing to fix it.

I’ll try that device handler above and see if that helps. Thanks!

David_Van · November 12, 2017, 1:45pm

I had my rgb one come on and change colors again last night, its getting old fast…

Hilly_2015 · November 12, 2017, 6:38pm

The wife wanted to go to Ikea yesterday so I picked up 2 Ikea Tradfri bulbs to hopefully phase out the Osrams. Unfortunately I forgot to pick up the Ikea Hub. So now I’m stuck with 2 bulbs that won’t connect to SmartThings / Hue Bridge because they need their firmware upgrading… sound familiar?

Louage · November 12, 2017, 8:41pm

I’m too heavily invested in the lightify bulbs to turn back now really… But id be interested to hear how you get on with the tradfri bulbs! How much is the ikea gateway?

I’ve submitted a support ticket to Smartthings for the lightify issues… Watch this space!

Ringworm · November 12, 2017, 10:48pm

Tried that DTH above with my RGBW bulbs, and lost the ability to control color. I’d rather have them come on randomly. Setting them back to the original device handler.

netsheriff · November 12, 2017, 11:51pm

Sorry I fibbed…

I used the Lightify Bulb v2 DTH for the Tunable whites E27 and GU10s. But for the RGBW light I used gkl_sf’s Osram RGBW DTH and that fixed the random on problem even though it is for the US version of the Lightify. Colour still works as just tried it now with no problems.

[UPDATED] Osram Lightify RGBW A19/BR30 US version (HA) DTH Community Created Device Types

Intended for the US HA version. May work with the European ZLL version, but not tested. Implements: Custom On/Off dim duration (in preferences) Custom dim duration for level change (in preferences) Custom duration for color transition (in preferences) Pulse (aka ZLL breathe) and blink (custom commands) Color loop/cycle UI enhancements Updated 6/6/17: set default color/level code by @ranga To set default initial (power-on) color/level: set your preferred color/level wait for a few seconds, then tap the Set Default tile wait 3-5 minutes for the process to complete (do NOT switch off or change any settings during this time) the main (on/off) tile will turn orange with “WAIT” status during this period; if it does not reset after 3-5 minutes, tap the refresh tile after that, you can try…

github.com

gkl-sf/SmartThings/blob/master/osram-bulb-HA.groovy

/**
 *  Osram Lightify RGBW A19/BR30 US version (HA) DTH rev 01/19/2018
 *
 *  by gkl_sf
 *
 *  set default color/level code by ranga
 *
 *  To set default initial (power-on) color/level:
 *  - set your preferred color/level
 *  - wait for few seconds, then tap the Set Default tile
 *  - wait 3-5 minutes for the process to complete (do NOT switch off or change any settings during this time)
 *  - the main (on/off) tile will turn orange with "WAIT" status during this period; if it does not reset after 3-5 minutes, tap the refresh tile 
 *  - after that, you can try switching power off and on to see if the new color/level is set correctly
 *  - may need to upgrade firmware (via ST OTA) for this to work
 *
 *  Licensed under the Apache License, Version 2.0 (the "License"); you may not use this file except
 *  in compliance with the License. You may obtain a copy of the License at:
 *
 *      http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0
 *

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allison · November 13, 2017, 9:08pm

This has become a problem for me over the last month or so. Prior to that, they never turned on by themselves.

itcsburnett · December 10, 2018, 3:10pm

I have opposite issue. One of my bulbs will randomly turn itself OFF…if i wait long enough (longer than one wants to keep track of.) it turns back on. If i set it to a dimmed value with a scene, it never seems to turn off. Last night it happened twice within 10 minutes. I see in the ST Classic App in the Recently for the bulb it turned off. I manually power-cycled, and see it turned back on. 10 minutes or so later, it turns off and i can see the off command in the app. driving me batty. Making me rethink the amount of effort to re-wire the 5 way switch setup and use a ST Dimmer

Jwwhite · March 23, 2019, 2:39am

This is an old thread but I just started having the same issue. My bulb just randomly turns on. Sometimes a couple times a day. Sometimes it goes a couple days before coming on. No automations controlling it. The log just says its on, not how…

Mike12 · March 25, 2019, 1:28pm

I’ve been having problems with the bulbs turning themselves on randomly throughout the night and sometimes in the day. I transferred them over from my Lowes Iris system. On Iris they would randomly turn themselves on but go right back off again. The other problem I experienced was that they were frequently unresponsive to the Samsung smart button or alexa.

This weekend after having the whole bedroom lit up multiple times during the night I retired them and Installed Cree Connected bulbs. I’ve had one of those and never had a problem. I hope the new ones work just as well. B-bye Osram!

DavinD · April 1, 2019, 1:12am

I too have started to see this issue. Two of my nine have started to randomly turn on.

LadySapphy · April 1, 2019, 1:40pm

Make sure the Firmware is updated
Try to limit how much they are used as a relay
Open a ticket with ST

jjmucker · December 11, 2019, 10:00pm

My Osram bulb has just started this and I found this thread. I’ve read the whole thread but is there a way to update the firmware without the Osram hub? Or any other type of fix to try and stop this?

Louage · January 2, 2020, 9:50am

Apologies for the late reply - ST allegedly will update the firmware in the bulbs as long as OTA firmware updates are enabled in the IDE, however I have never found them to work. In addition the latest update available via ST is 0x01020412 - however via the Osram gateway the latest is 0x01020510.

As an aside, these bulbs can be added to Philips Hue. Positive is they add instantly and will ‘dim up’ and ‘dim down’ when turned on/off, big downside is that when they are switched off, they come back on at 10%!! This is on firmware 0x01020412.

As earlier promised in the thread, this is the firmware notes for recent versions above 0x01020412:

Firmware version 01020509/01020510

Optimized pairing timing
Added custom command for enabling/disabling touchlink
Fixed issue related to the network joining in multi-hope scenario
Improved OTA image query mechanism
Fixed possible security issue
Improved timing identification through touchlink messages
Improved lamp brightness on the dynamic scene activation
Added custom commands to set the lamp state after OTA upgrade and after a power cycle
Fixed wrong lamp behavior switching from color dynamic scene to color temperature dynamic scene

Firmware version 01020490

Fixed possible malfunction in case of more systems working close
Fixed possible block condition in case of many color change commands in a short time
Fixed issue related to the configuration of the light level and color reports
Increased OTA upgrade reliability
Improved conversion between Hue/Saturation and x/y color notation upon color change commands

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