Smartthings Android app ( update 1.8.01.22 ) May 10 2023

[h0ckeysk8er (Bruce Pinsky)]

@S.F.B

@h0ckeysk8er @Mariano_Colmenarejo

Well, over here both thermostats and temp sensors and even the odd Fibaro UBS may be selected to be averaged and displayed in the “mini tile”. However, several devices with temp measurement (plugs and fire alarms) are not on the menu.

I’m guessing that my Ecobee sensors aren’t included because they seem to be recognized as motion sensors even though they also have temperature sensors in them. Guessing your temp sensors are recognized as such. Be interesting for the OP and yourself to check out the device type in the API Browser+ to see what types are included and which are not.

Would have been nice to include things based on their capabilities (temperatureMeasurement) and not on device type.

[Mariano_Colmenarejo]

because they must have chosen the device profiles with categories MultifunctionalSensor and Thermostat

[h0ckeysk8er (Bruce Pinsky)]

@Mariano_Colmenarejo

because they must have chosen the device profiles with categories MultifunctionSensor and Thermostat

Not sure how my water heater would fall into either of those profiles

Now, my temp/motion sensors, thermostat, and water heater all have the temperatureMeasurement capability. However, only the thermostat and water heater have the thermostatMode capability. Could be related to that I suppose.

[Mariano_Colmenarejo]

Please, in order not to spoil this thread, someone who can move post, could move these to the thread

Smartthings Android app ( update 1.8.01.22 ) May 10 2023

[nayelyz (OOO - Please contact @AlejandroPadilla or @Ivan_Luis_Falleau)]

@Johnnybegoode

Now on the latest iOS update we have an average temperature (and humidity) ‘mini’ tile on the favourites page - does the API give access to these values? My question is for rules use. Thanks

Hi, @Johnnybegoode. No, that information is brought by an internal query, not using the public API.

[TapioX]

@S.F.B

over here both thermostats and temp sensors and even the odd Fibaro UBS may be selected

I can select all temperature measurements ( Zigbee, vEdge virtual devices and MQTT driver devices)

If you want use other temperature measuments you can use vEdge
temp/humidity devices and copy temperature measurement from real measurements to virtual measurement using RulesAPI rule.
[ST Edge] vEdge Creator: a virtual device generator for end users - Devices & Integrations / Community Created Device Types - SmartThings Community

Here is example how to make RulesAPI rule that copies temperature measurement from real measurement to virtual measurement
Integration Solutions using MQTT - Devices & Integrations - SmartThings Community

[Automated_House (Jimmy aka SmartThingsBeat)]

It seems to only have temperature devices available to select for the status tile where temperature is the main component. If its a secondary component, it isn’t available to choose.

[Mariano_Colmenarejo]

@Automated_House

It seems to only have temperature devices available to select for the status tile where temperature is the main component. If its a secondary component, it isn’t available to choose.

I still think that they also have to do with the category of the profile and with the fact that it has the temperature capability.
In the smartthings button, the temperature is in the main component, the same as in the multipurpose sensor or in the motion sensor.

The difference is that the multipurpose sensor has the MultifunctionalSensor category and is selectable and the others have the Button and ModionSensor category and can be chosen.

[Automated_House (Jimmy aka SmartThingsBeat)]

ah, interesting. With so many multifunctional devices in the world today, “category” seems pointless.

[Mariano_Colmenarejo]

@Automated_House

With so many multifunctional devices in the world today, “category” seems pointless

Ok, that doesn’t seem very useful.

I also don’t understand that they link the icons available to change in the app to the device’s profile category too.

They should let use the icon that the user needs from among all the existing ones

[Johnnybegoode (John)]

Thanks for the rapid, and clear, reply - much appreciated.

[Geoffs]

I have just started to check out these mini tiles.
I notice that there is one for open contacts. The only one I can select is a virtual device.
I am unable even to select any of smartthings own door sensors, ?because they are called multipurpose sensors?

[h0ckeysk8er (Bruce Pinsky)]

@nayelyz

@Johnnybegoode

Now on the latest iOS update we have an average temperature (and humidity) ‘mini’ tile on the favourites page - does the API give access to these values? My question is for rules use. Thanks

Hi, @Johnnybegoode. No, that information is brought by an internal query, not using the public API.

I just noticed that the mini-tile for “Lights” doesn’t include light switches or dimmers, only my outlets (device type of SmartPlug). That doesn’t seem to make any sense really.

[epukane (Toni)]

@Mariano_Colmenarejo

In the smartthings button, the temperature is in the main component, the same as in the multipurpose sensor or in the motion sensor.

The difference is that the multipurpose sensor has the MultifunctionalSensor category and is selectable and the others have the Button and MotionSensor category and can be chosen.

That is what I am seeing. I cannot select the ST buttons for temperature information but my 2 ST Multifunction sensors are there. I also don’t have the option to use my SwitchBot temp/humidity sersors which is more annoying since that’s their whole purpose.

[Mariano_Colmenarejo]

Acabo de ver que con algún plugin en la app de androif 1.8.01.22 ya no tenemos la opción de cambiar iconos en el menú de edición del dispositivo:rofl:

[Automated_House (Jimmy aka SmartThingsBeat)]

@Mariano_Colmenarejo

Acabo de ver que con algún plugin en la app de androif 1.8.01.22 ya no tenemos la opción de cambiar iconos en el menú de edición del dispositivo

I just saw that with some plugin in the androif 1.8.01.22 app we no longer have the option to change icons in the device editing menu

SmartThings giveth and SmartThings take away

[Johnnybegoode (John)]

Midday today on iOS also - default icons - lights that are switches or plugs show as such, with no option to edit.

[Paul_Oliver (PCO)]

I am seeing the same on Android 1.8.01.22. There are no options to change icons and all existing icons have reverted to the designated icons.

[nayelyz (OOO - Please contact @AlejandroPadilla or @Ivan_Luis_Falleau)]

Hi, everyone. I saw someone reported it here: Changing Icon's in the Smartthings App not working (May 2023) - #7 by dotan_shai

Has someone here contacted Customer Support?

[Mariano_Colmenarejo]

They have also added more devices that measure temperature to the ministatus tile.
My 3 motion sensors that measure temperature have appeared, but I can’t disable them, they don’t appear in the list of selectable ones, and there’s less to go!