Add it 1st in then. Then remove it. Go to IF and you’ll find it. Add it there. Come back to then QUICKLY, you’ll still find it available. Add it. Only with Location it works.
I have migrated over to the SmartThings Home Monitor in the new Connect app and got around some of the SmartThings Home Monitor’s restrictions/limitations with this setup.
First, I use a Virtual Switch named ‘Home Security’ for setting the SmartThings Home Monitor mode which then sets the Home & Night Location modes. I also use the ‘Home Security’ Virtual Switch so I can use Alexa or Google Home voice commands to enable Armed Stay and Disarm the SmartThings Home Monitor via voice command. "Alexa, turn on Home Security", "Alexa, turn off Home Security".
Home Security Switch Off
If
Control device, Home Security = Off
Then
Change Security Mode = Disarmed
Home Security Switch On
If
Control device, Home Security = On
Then
Change Security Mode = Armed (Stay)
Then these three Automations are defaults to setup what happens when the SmartThings Home Monitor mode when triggered due to some Automation, a switch (virtual in my case) is on/off, or if I manually trigger the Security Mode change via the app by tapping on one of the three SmartThings Home Monitor settings.
Armed (Away)
If
Security Mode = Armed (Away)
Then
Notify Someone
Run scenes, Armed (Away)
- Various Control devices for Lights and Outlets = on/off
All Cameras = On
Location Mode = Away
Armed (Stay)
If
Security Mode = Armed (Stay)
Then
Notify Someone
Control Device, Home Security = On
Run scenes, Armed (Stay)
- Various Control devices for Lights and Outlets = on/off
Certain Cameras = On
Location Mode = Night
Disarmed
If
Security Mode = Disarmed
Then
Notify Someone
Control Device, Home Security = Off
Run scenes, Disarmed
- Various Control devices for Lights and Outlets = on/off
All Cameras = Off
Location Mode = Home
Now moving on to the automations that trigger SmartThings Home Monitor to happen 'Automation’ally.
Good Morning
If
Every day, 6am - 9pm and only once per day
All Conditions met
Living Room motion = Detected
All Open/Close sensors = Closed (means no one has broke in)
Location Mode = Night
Then
Control Device, Home Security = Off
Goodnight!
Every day at 9pm
If
All Conditions met
All Open/Close sensors = Closed (means no one has broke in)
Location Mode = Home
Then
Control Device, Home Security = On
Since the system is armed at 9pm, this will disarm the system in case I go somewhere after 9pm (like take out the trash, or go check the mail) via the Garage. I only use the Garage door(s) to enter and leave, so I don’t have any Front Door automations. Also, the Garage motion sensor turns on the Garage light, and I have Smart Home Lighting SmartApp set to not turn off the Garage light until 5 minutes after the Garage motion sensor has stopped detecting motion.
Going Somewhere
If
All Conditions met
Garage motion = Detected
All Open/Close sensors = Closed (means no one has broke in)
Location Mode = Night
Then
Control Device, Home Security = Off
This re-arms the Armed Stay mode after I’m done going into the Garage after 9pm. This also automation’ally enables Armed Stay when I return home after 9pm and before 6am.
Goodnight! After 9pm
Every Day, between 9pm - 6am
If
All conditions met
Garage Light = Off
All Open/Close sensors = Closed (means no one has broke in)
Location Mode = Home
Then
Control Device, Home Security = On
And finally the Away and I’m Back automations don’t use the Home Security (Virtual Switch).
Goodbye!
If
All Conditions met
Mobile device presence = Away
All Open/Close sensors = Closed
- (This means that if I left something ‘OPEN’, I won’t get the Goodbye notification from the SmartThings app. Since I also have the Android Tasker app on my smartphone, Tasker looks for the SmartThings app notifications, and when it sees the SmartThings app notification from the Armed (Away) automation above with ‘Armed Away’ in the notification, then Tasker will ‘say’, “Home Security Armed Away” on my smartphone. I’m consciously waiting to hear this notification whenever I leave to go anywhere. In fact, I use Tasker for a lot of other SmartThings notifications too so I can hear them out loud, like, ‘Front Door Opened’ and so forth.)
Then
Change security mode = Armed (Away)
I’m Back!
If
All Conditions Met
Mobile device presence = Home
Location Mode = Away
Then
Change Security Mode = Disarmed
Also, there is one other BIG ‘limitation’ in the new Connect app’s SmartThings Home Monitor. It’s missing CAMERA SUPPORT!!! So, since the new Connect app’s SmartThings Home Monitor doesn’t control Cameras at all like the old Classic app did, I resorted to using both Scenes as shown above, and the Smart Lighting SmartApp below.
Smart Lighting
Security - Turn on Cameras when Multipurpose Sensor Opens at Night
Which Devices do I want to control = All my cameras
What do I want to do = Turn On
Select Trigger = Open/Close
Which open/close sensors = ‘All of them’
Turn on when = Opened
Only when mode is = Night
And to end it all, I have a Google Home device setup to use my Google Voice account. Why? Well, I could do this with any SmartPhone too, but I like using the Google Home device since it has a booming speakerphone! Anyway, I have a contact named, Police, with its number set to the local Police departments dispatch number. So, if the SmartThings Home Monitor’s alarm goes off at night, all I have to do is say, "OK Google, Call the Police!"*
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Brilliant! Thank you DaWeav for sharing your setup.
I had added a “sitter” location mode and routine in the classic app to override the SHM and was struggling to convert it’s functionality to the new app. With your setup, I added a “date night” scene that I can run manually when the babysitter arrives. It sets location mode to sitter, preventing goodnight and goodbye from triggering (I added a home location check to goodbye). Everything goes back to automatic when we get back and trigger the security mode disarm automation. If this works as expected, I’ll be able to wean myself off the classic app completely.
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I just want to update my post about Camera support in the new SmartThings app’s Smart Home Monitor. The Samsung SmartThings Camera and now recently the Arlo Cameras (Pro 2 and Q Plus) are are all listed and available for selection in the new app’s STHM responses section for cameras. I haven’t tested it yet to see if they record when the STHM is triggered, but it seems that the new app is starting to close more gaps with the old SmartThings Classic app. Not to mention that I really like using Camera Groups in the new SmartThings app. I just wish the app would allow creating shortcuts for the Camera Groups on the Android Home Screen.
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Interesting. But does it actually work?
No recording at all for the Arlo Pro2 4000 Base station cameras, but the Arlo Q Plus & SmartThings Camera did record when the STHM was triggered.
But, the Arlo Pro2’s still have the integration problem that they have had for three months now. Supposedly a new Arlo base station firmware was going to be released to resolve the Pro2 issue, but it hasn’t been delivered yet.
At least we know that SmartThings intent is to continue supporting 3rd party cameras in the new Connect app. That something!
Exactly! hopefully the other Arlo bugs gets worked out.
I tried to follow your example here.
"…
Home Security Switch Off
If
Control device, Home Security = Off
Then
Change Security Mode = Disarmed
…"
But I am not sure exactly what you are doing here.
Are these the fields you add in the automation
routine of the V3 app?
If so, I don’t see any option for
THEN
“Change Security Mode” = Disarmed
Am I missing something here?
Where do you get the: “Change Security Mode” from?
Thanks,
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…
Tap on the plus sign in the upper right
Choose “automation”
Set the If conditions
“ Change the security mode“ will be one of the options for the Then
Thank you very much!
For some reason this option did not show up when I tried before.
It is now showing up. This is puzzling.
Thanks!
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Hi Guys,
I got around to upgrading to the new app and I’m mimicking DaWeav’s setup but I have a couple of questions.
- For some reason when I return back into my geofenced area, instead of disabling the SMH it triggers the “Leaving” action and arms is. I know the presence sensing is working properly because I created a couple of rules to let me know when it thinks I’m out of geofence and when I’m in it and they work properly.
- My location is overriding the virtual “home security switch”. For instance, if I know that a friend is planning on swinging by when I’m not home I would like to be able to turn off the home security switch and not have it notify me whenever there’s a door or motion sensor is triggered. When I try this now it puts itself back into Arm (Away) mode a few moments later.
- Would be nice it there was a way to have my Alexa speakers tell me if there’s been an intrusion when the system is in the Arm(stay) state. Is there a way to do this?
Thanks!
You may need to consider the order events can happen in and make sure your automations do the right thing in all cases.
For example, if you had a departure automation with the conditions mobile presence away and contact sensors closed, that would also run if you open and close one of the contacts before your mobile reports you are home.
The trick is usually to make sure your departure automations can only happen when you are at home, and arrival automations when you are away. Location modes with preconditions come in handy for that sort of thing.
I’m not sure why your Geolocation mobile presence would re-trigger it’s Geolocation presence as ‘member isn’t there’ when it’s already outside the Geolocation zone and hasn’t been inside the Geolocation zone and left it again. I have done the same thing and it leaves it off, but I haven’t done it in a long time. With all the mobile presence issues SmartThings was been experiencing lately, they may have change something. I’ll have to try it again to see what happens nowadays.
I use an Alexa virtual switch with a Smart Lighting routine.
Alexa virtual switch which I simply named it ‘Intrusion’.
Smart Lighting
What do you want to control,
Intrusion
What do you want to do,
Turn On
Select Trigger
Open/Close
Which Open/Close Sensors
I selected multiple multipurpose sensors.
Turn On when,
Opened
More Options
Only when Mode is,
Night
Note: Night Mode is set when going into Armed Stay.
Alexa Routine
When Alexa virtual switch is Opened,
Then Action Messaging/Send Announcement ‘Intrusion’.
And, if your not using the Alexa Momentary virtual switch, then add turn Off the Intrusion Alexa virtual switch.
Update: Alexa virtual switch
Thank you for the feedback, I don’t believe that this is a problem in my case though.
The “Returned” automation I have setup is as follows (please pardon my syntax/notation, I’m not a programmer):
IF
{
Who: Wayne’s Galaxy S10e,
Where: Home
When: This member is at home
}
THEN
Change security mode: Disarmed
and my “Leaving” automation is:
IF, When all conditions below are met
{
All contact sensors: Closed
Who: Wayne’s Galaxy S10e,
Where: Home
When: Member isn’t at home
}
THEN
Change security mode: Armed (away)
Seems pretty straightforward to me but it’s activating the “Leaving” automation when I return to the geofence. Not sure what is the best way to troubleshoot this on the phone but when I look at the history I see that it recorded “Leaving” followed by two instances of "Armed (away). FWIW the history page does not appear to be logging everything as there are gaps in time.
Thanks for your feedback DaWeav. If you wouldn’t mind checking to see if yours is working as expected that would be helpful. It think there were some changes recently and I’m wondering if it might not be easier for me just to start over.
Regarding the “Alexa virtual switch”; I do not know this existed. When I asked about this feature maybe a year or so ago, I was given some outside application workarounds (“webcore” rings a bell)… looks like there’s been lots of progress since then. I shall investigate.
I tried it today and when I Disarmed the STHM while I was Away and outside the Home geolocation zone, it stayed Disarmed.
Thanks man, I appreciate you checking… I must have something setup different. Might try redoing all of the automatons again from scratch this weekend. Wish there was a way to “dump” them to some text format so I could compare/troubleshoot easier.
One thing I did remember today, is that I have the app installed on a spare phone that I use as a remote control… wondering if that’s messing with things somehow, even though I haven’t have it included in geofencing.
However, it may have only stayed Disarmed since none of the multipurpose sensors never Opened/Closed while it was Disarmed. I believe that it would re-arm when any one of the multipurpose sensors where to Close since that would be the trigger to re-arm the system as all of the other conditions are met. So that’s the problem.
I can only think of one way around this by using a virtual switch to keep it from arming if the virtual switch isn’t in the right condition like Off for example.
I’ve been using this for probably over a year now without any issues. There was some sort of ‘SmartThings Incident - Issues with Home Monitoring Services & Automations’ on January 19 @ 1:04 PM EST. Since then, when my Security mode arms at night and disarms in the morning, I’ve been getting push notification spams on all my devices. Has anyone else encountered this since then?