Alarm keypad for entire house?


#1

Hi all,

I recently took a look at the Iris stuff before realizing it was on its way out.

One thing I did like about this system was the keypad which I assume could be used as an alarm activation/deactivation system. Iris - keypad link

Does this work with Smarthings and if so, can it be used in this way? Ideally, I’d like to be able to walk in as the system counts down (no idea how to do this, if even possible), and enter a code within say 30 seconds before the alarm sounds and notifications are sent etc.

Any help would be appreciated.


#2

There is much discussion on this in the forums.

Basically this is two different topics.

One) a physical keypad. There are two different Iris keypad models. One of them does work with smartthings and one of them does not. You will find detailed discussion of the one that does in the following thread:

Two) Exit and entry delay. Regrettably, the official security feature, smart home monitor, does not have exit and entry delays. It’s not clear why not. But it doesn’t.

However, you can work around that with core or some other options. Core is probably the easiest at this time. If you ask in the peer assistance thread, The people there will be able to tell you what’s possible.


#3

Thanks JD. I like the idea of the one that does work, but with no countdown it kinda defeats the purpose.

Thinking about it, I have a Schlage Connect door lock I know is compatible with ST even though I’ve not installed it yet. Is it possible that entering the right code could set the system to deactivated/home and not notify and sound?

Infact, thinking about it what would be even better for the system to be disarmed would be the right code entered into the Schlage deadlock AND either a presence tag or the Android app acting as a presence tag. Is this possible?


#4

Yes, it’s all possible, but once you get into the A and B and C kind of logic you may need to use core.

It sounds like at this point you might benefit from looking at the quick browse lists in the community – created wiki. They’re divided into three sections: smart apps, device type handlers, and project reports. There is a list for “security” in each of those three categories. You should find a lot of ideas there. :sunglasses:

http://thingsthataresmart.wiki/index.php?title=How_to_Quick_Browse_the_Community-Created_SmartApps_Forum_Section


(kevin) #5

You should take a look at the alarmdecoder - native ST support and you can just use your phone…


(Zack Cornelius) #6

That specific keypad shown in the photo (Model 3405-L) will work with SmartThings, using the DTH and SmartApps on the release thread @JDRoberts linked. Lowes also had (They don’t sell it anymore, I think) an older keypad that was wider, and had a very prominent speaker on the face, which does not work (Uses a Iris proprietary protocol). The XFinity Centralite keypad (Model 3400-X) also works, using the same DTH and SmartApps.

Also in that release thread, there’s a modified version of SmartAlarm that provides entry and exit delays for the countdown, just as you described it. It does require using SmartAlarm instead of Smart Home Monitor as your “alarm provider”, which sacrifices a bit of app integration (Alarm state no longer tied to that nice dashboard), but it provides some significant functionality to make it much closer to a “normal” alarm panel, including most of all, entry delay (With beeping alerts at the keypad to remind you to disarm the system).

–Zack


#7

Thanks guys, that’s all really useful.

Not sure of the difference between Smart Alarm and Smart Home Monitor? Both are Android apps I assume? I’m totally new to this game. Last alarm system I had was a standard hardwired PIR system that I had installed professionally, and I’ve tinkered with a Raspberry Pi a bit but I’m no programmer!

Also, the alarmdecoder thing, typically just used as an add-on to a tradtional alarm keypad?


#8

Smart Home Monitor is the official SmartThings feature for security notifications. It’s built into the mobile app. It can do some things that none of the other options can, in particular, it can be integrated with the subscription scout monitoring service. It’s also the only way to be able to view video clips inside the smartthings mobile app.

SmartAlarm pre-dated SHM, and was created by a community member and then officially published by SmartThings. It actually has a lot of features that SHM does not, in particular entrance/exit delays and zones. But it can’t integrate with Scout. It has remained popular with the community because of these additional features.

You can install either of these by doing the following:

One) open the official SmartThings mobile app

Two) tap the “marketplace” icon at the lower right of the screen

Three) tap “smart apps” at the top right of the screen

Four) scroll down to “safety & security” and choose that

This will display a list of available security – related smart apps. The first one will be SHM. If you scroll down a little further you will see smartalarm.


#9

I’ve been out of the loop for a while - is this still the best Smartapp to use with this Iris keypad?

I’m trying to get it working with the Smart Alarm smartapp as suggested, but I can’t seem to do two things - successfully set a key to press or hold to arm the alarm in either state, or to be able to set a PIN to disarm. The only PIN reference is to block API access?

Any ideas?