UK 230V 13A smart in-wall power socket


#1

Hi,

Some of you may have already read my posts on my in wall connected light switch for 2-wire/no neutral installations which I am developing. If not check out my website (www.rhoob.com) for more info.

In addition to this I have been working on a prototype in-wall smart socket, similar to the LightwaveRF LW260/270 smart sockets. This would be a more permanent solution over your standard plug-in device.

I have a rough proof of concept ready using the EnOcean protocol and depending on the result of this post I will continue the development to offer a Zigbee variant which would be compatible with SmartThings.

My question is…there does not seem to be many UK options which work directly with SmartThings therefore is this a product you see would be welcome in the UK smart home sector?

Your thoughts would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Neil


#2

Based on comments from the manufacturers, the number of different plug types being used in Europe has meant that the Z wave manufacturers just haven’t seen a market for in wall receptacles. People just use in wall relays, of which there are a number of different brands, or pocket sockets.

You could see what’s been certified on the official Z wave alliance site if you want to look at what the competition would be. But they all require a neutral, so that would be your advantage. :sunglasses:

http://products.z-wavealliance.org/regions/1/categories/16/products

It is of course essential that any product intended for this purpose have full safety certifications, as anything installed in wall introduces a potential fire hazard.


(Robin) #3

I’m yet to find an inwall solution capable of handling a pair of 13A UK sockets and still allow room to put the socket flush to the wall.

In my house I haven’t seen any need for them anyway, my table lamps use the swiid in-line cord switches and everything else tends to need to be on standby or, living with 3 girls, is a hairdryer lol.


(Olivier) #4

Love the idea of the switch as there are not that many no neutral compatible solutions. I am currently using a few MiHome but the lack of APIs, the no dimming and the lack of feedback make that I am ready to switch when a good alternative arrives!

Regarding the in wall sockets. A bit less of a necessity but for a good product, that feeds back its state and eventually the consumption, I can clearly be convinced!

I just signed for your mailing list and will clearly be waiting for your kickstarter!


#5

Thanks JDRoberts, that link was really useful, it would appear that there is not a certified Z-wave device like I described, plenty of plug in sockets and in-wall modules.

It makes me wonder what data of the potential market size LightwaveRF used to convince them to develop and sell a smart socket…it would be really interesting to understand their sales figures.

Den look to have a neat product but works within their own system and is wifi based.


#6

Thanks Oliver


#7

I believe lightwave RF had a much larger potential market for their light switches because they don’t require a neutral. That then created a market for the matching outlets.