Traditional switch


(Josh Willett) #1

Is there a traditional smart switch out there? All I see is paddle switches. Thanks!


(Matt) #2

here you go sir…


(Josh Willett) #3

Sweet. Thanks for the fast reply! Not sure how i didn’t see those.

have you seen anything in 20$ range?


(Matt) #4

not in a zwave or zigbee switch. Be careful if you search you will find the add on switches those require one of these tow work.


(Josh Willett) #5

I have a small light in my living room I would like controlled. I had a wemo plug into it but my wife keeps turning the switch off. So, when I try to turn it on with My Echo it doesn’t come on. Can I replace the switch with something like the link below? What’s the difference between an add on and the switch that Matt posted?

http://www.amazon.com/GE-12728-Wireless-Lighting-Control/dp/B00PYMGYY0/ref=pd_sim_60_1?ie=UTF8&dpID=41JAek%2BuNUL&dpSrc=sims&preST=AC_UL160_SR82%2C160&refRID=16VA28JHD7MXMVH2DBWN


(Josh Willett) #6

I guess you answered my question. Thanks Matt!


(Jason) #7

You could use an In wall relay to control a regular switch

http://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=11989

http://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=11990

If you have two switches nearby you could use a dual relay to control both bringing the overall cost down.


(Josh Willett) #8

Jason,

Have you used these? are they reliable?


(Sergey Stoma) #9

Curious, is there a reason most switches tend to be zwave based? Like G&E has toggles in zwave version, but not in zigbee. And most of my devices are zigbee, would be nice for switches to double as repeaters


(Jason) #10

No, I currently am outfitted with GE/jasco switches, but there are many community members who use these with great success.

https://community.smartthings.com/search?q=aeon%20micro%20category%3A5

(Jason) #11

Zigbee GE Light Switch @ Smartthings shop

And @ Best buy


(Sergey Stoma) #12

Paddle… While toggle ( https://shop.smartthings.com/#!/products/ge-in-wall-toggle-switch-on-slash-off ) is zwave only


(Neil Cherry) #13

When buying the switches be sure to read carefully. There are some Z-Wave switches which appear to be cheaper and they’re really part of a 3 way setup (2 way?). This cheaper switch won’t work without the more expensive switch. I guess the cheaper switch is like a virtual switch that doesn’t switch a load directly but sends something to something else to be turned on. . Anyway I’ve noticed that the advert doesn’t really clearly state that. Lot of mystery with ‘big box’ stores and why one thing is cheaper than the other (ex: a $0.49 125v@15A switch, a $1.99 125v@15A switch and a $5.49 125v@15A switch - like that).


#14

My guess is that inexpensive residential wall switches are zwave rather than zigbee because WiFi doesn’t interfere with Z wave, but can definitely be a problem with zigbee.

When you have a device that can be moved, like a motion sensor, or even in many cases a lightbulb, you have a lot more choices about where to place it. Sometimes all it takes to avoid interference is moving a couple of feet left or right.

Fixed location devices like door locks, wall switches, and window covering controls don’t have the same options. They are where they are and it can be expensive to move them.

So although I haven’t seen anything public about this, my guess would be that most device manufacturers for this low-end market have found they just get too many unsolvable complaints with the zigbee versions.

I personally choose a Z wave doorlock instead of a zigbee one precisely because I knew I would want to boost Wi-Fi signal strength in that area to support some other devices I wanted to put there. :sunglasses:

There are some professionally-installed automation systems which do use Zigbee switches, but their installers have the necessary tools to address network interference.