SmartThings Station if you already have a V2/V3 hub?

Man that was super helpful!!!
First of all, I have been searching everywhere for the web client! That is so so useful! Thanks a lot!
Regarding current tools…I have battled a lot with the “developers workspace” but I just can’t wrap my head around how to get anything at all from those sites… :frowning:
I have read about the CLI, but I have not tried to make it work actually… because I cannot understand why they would downgrade the system and leave us without a user interface :cry:… I manage linux servers btw… is not that I hate a command line… but I just dont want to take the time to learn a whole new dictionary of commands to do something I used to do seamlessly in the old IDE :stuck_out_tongue:
Anyway… my main goal is just to check the zigbee network status… and check which devices are routers… and relaying with what… to find out why some switches keep disconnecting :confused:

This may help:

Life after the IDE: Questions and Answers

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They seem to be skipping the station with firmware updates so far. I don’t even think it’s on the official smartthings edge driver channel yet. Wonder if they forgot about the device already or if they are planning to do updates later.

Well the Station did get a couple of firmware updates. I think I was one of the first people to get a Smartthings Station (being that I live in Korea and frequent some samsung falaxy stores… and I got it for free in a launching event), it was the first or second week of Febrarury… and well, the first thing I did was trying to install the tasmota edge driver I had in my hub V2… and after loggin in, I could see in My Humbs… the Home Hub (that is my V2), and my SmartThings Station… and when Clicking on Enroll under SmartThings Station… a message would popup that said… “SmartThings Station does not support Edge Drivers”… XD… I tried for like 2 or 3 days… with different edge drivers… same results I could not believe it XD
But anyway… I activated automatic updates… and after a week or so… I tried again… and it worked :stuck_out_tongue:
Anyway… Since then I am still using my Hub V2 alogside my Station… and have been balancing what devices I have installed in one or the other… so to test if which one works better. So far… mmm… I think Station maybe works faster… for Zigbee devices that relay routers… but I get the feeling that for sleeping end devices (battery powered buttons), it takes a bit longer in the Station than what is takes on the Hub V2. Not to mention when the devices are crossed (one on the Station and one on the Hub…), there is like a 2 or 3 seconds delay for turning on and off…
In any case… all I want is to be able to see the zigbeeNodeType and maybe the route of the zigbee devices connected to the Station… still no cigar.


It’s definitely using the standard SmartThings Edge Driver Channels (and customs ones if you want)

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My station pre latest firmware was installing switches using dth. I can try re-ading to see if it’s using the non beta channel.

Yep, I see them now on the latest firmware. Had to remove the beta channel for it to appear. Thanks!

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How do you know if it is the beta drivers or not?
I have not manually uninstalled any drivers and my Zigbee Switch drivers say this:

Use the API Browser+ and see what channels your hub is subscribed to by looking at the installed drivers.

Yeah, everything points towards using API Browser+ as the solution for all I need… I haven’t really taken the time to analyze that.
But… has it been unequivocally established that API Browser+ is safe to use? :stuck_out_tongue:

You don’t need to use the API Browser, you can open the app, go to devices, and open your hub. Then go to the “driver” page (use the 3 dots). It should list all the drivers and channels you have or are subscribed to.

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If you see the screenshot I shared… the Smartthings App does not show the Channel, so you dont know if it is beta channel or not.
Anyway, I read a little about the API Browser+… and I caved… created an API key that only had readding permissions, and well it works amazingly well. I was able to verify that both my Hub V2 and the Smartthings Station are using the Smartthings Driver (without Beta)… and well… no placeholders and nothing says cloud… (everything is local).
I also did the very smart-if-I-say-so-myself experimet of… turning off my wifi router and trying my sigbee switches and control stuff that is not directly connected… and they all work correctly XD

The only thing I still have not been able to find in the API Browser+ if where do I see if a zigbee device zigbeeNodeType… to see if it is being used a END_NODE, or as a relay ROUTER…

to be more precise… this is the basic device info I can (still) see of the devices (connected to the Hub V2) in the old Samsung IDE:

That is what I mean… isn’t it just basic to check what zigbee devices have a ROUTER role in the zigbee network? I mean… that is what zigbee is for…

The ST APIs don’t expose the low level Zigbee and Z-Wave device info, hence, the API+ Browser can’t display them. Until ST adds that info to the APIs, it will be inaccessible once the IDE is shut down.

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The API Browser+ utilizes the same ST APIs as the ST CLI and that can be used to manage ST via tools like Postman. It also uses some of the APIs that the ST Mobile App utilizes. If you think the ST App or the CLI is safe to use, then so is the API Browser+. It’s simply a more user friendly UI to the ST APIs.

If you don’t grant write access to your PAT, then you won’t be able to use the API Browser+ to change drivers, delete devices, create/change/delete Rules, Create/Delete Location modes, etc.

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No, as with just about any websites you have to make your own call as to whether you are dealing with competent goodies, incompetent goodies, or baddies.

Likewise anyone recommending those websites.

I have referred users to the API Browser+ on a number of occasions and I access it myself when I need a pure web solution.

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The app (Android) does show the channel in both the individual device driver details and the list on the hub - unless it is ST stock (non beta):

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Thank you so much and also to everyone before ×D
I am actually surprised on how quickly all of my questions were answered :flushed: :sweat_smile:


Can you confirm that the SmartThings Station hub supports custom edge drivers? I’m be looking to use custom drivers to support Aqara sensors and use TP-Link wifi devices locally.

Asking because earlier posts state that this hub only uses stock drivers.

yes, it supports custom edge drivers.