At least it is partially useful without a subscription. Yet another reason Iâm happy not to have bought into that ecosystem. Eventually, Iâll find a replacement doorbell button with a camera that can be used with local recording and no subscriptionâŚ
Oh, one more thing: if you have this or another of the family of Ring devices, you might want to read about âAmazon Sidewalkââincluding online discussions about securityâand decide whether you might want to disable that âfeature.â
I made a table to compare Ring Video Doorbell 2nd Gen with UK available Non subscription Battery Doorbells with Apple Homekit, Google, Smartthings and Alexa support. Even though they are battery powered some can be wired as well.
Eufy have some other cheaper models.
Aqara G4
TP-Link Tapo D230S1
Ezviz DB2
Eufy E340
Ring Video 2
Price ÂŁ
89.99
94.99
66.98
139.99
69.99 + 49.99 sub
Motion detection
Local Facial Recognition
Smart AI
Human Detection
AI Detection
yes parcel
Ring Alerts
Indoor Chime Repeater Included
Hub/Chime Included
Hub/Chime Included
Pair with Chime/Alexa/Google
Chime/Alexa
Resolution
1080p
2K
2K
2K Full HD and HDR
1080p
FoV
162
160
176
Dual Cameras, Package Guard
155
Local Storage
7 Days free cloud and Up to 512Gb MicroSD
Up to 512Gb MicroSD
Up to 256Gb MicroSD
8GB
no
Masking Areas
yes
yes
yes
yes
yes
Matter
with update
no
no
no
no
2.4 ghz Wifi
yes
yes
yes
yes
yes
5 ghz Wifi
?
no
no
no
no
Colour Night Vision
no
yes
no
yes
no
Battery
AAx6 up to 4 months
up to 6 months
up to 4 months
up to 3 months
up to 3 months
Alexa
yes
yes
yes
yes
yes
Google
yes
yes
yes
yes
no
Apple
yes
no
no
no
no
Smartthings
with update to matter
no
no
no
yes
I ordered the Aqara G4 Doorbell to replace my Ring Doorbell.
Helpful comparison, but we should note that none of the models you listed have a smartthings integration, right? The best you can do is try to use Alexa routines as an intermediary for partial integration.
BTW, we use the aqara G4 at our house and like it, but we are using it with HomeKit. We havenât found any satisfactory way of bringing it into SmartThings.
Also, I wouldnât put âsoonâ for matter: the matter standard itself does not yet support any kind of camera. And once they are in the spec, it will probably take device manufacturers anywhere from a few months to a year or so to actually get it working in their products. So itâs a ways off yet.
Only once Aqara update the firmware with Matter will it integrate with Smartthings, their website says âsoonâ, however I changed the table to ,âwith updateâ, whenever that is. Not sure if any of the other doorbells will get matter. Looking forward to ârecyclingâ, the Ring doorbell.
Itâs also important to note that the aqara camera models are also hubs for them. And some of those hubs will become âmatter bridges,â which means they will be able to bring over some of their child devices like sensors to other Home Automation platforms. So for the purposes of this thread, itâs important to understand that itâs entirely possible that Aqara camera model Will be updated to act as a âmatter bridge,â providing SmartThings integration that way for its child devices like sensors, but still without bringing over the video feed or the other camera options. Weâll just have to wait and see what actually gets delivered.
I think that this is where Amazon is headed with all of its subscription-based products. They operated at a loss for so long that now theyâre trying to make a profit. I have had the Protect plan since it started for $100.00 a month. I have extensively used the 10% discount and replaced all my earlier devices for free with the extended lifetime warranty. You have to think about the cost they have to store 60 days or 180 days of video for all the users that have Ring devices. I still donât see the need to store any more than 30 days max, but thatâs just me.
The monthly price for individual users is increasing by $1 a month. I think this is really to drive more people to buy more products and get the higher-priced plans that cover all of your devices and is a much better deal. Plus, if you have the security system as well, it covers all of your monitoring costs! I was paying ADT $60.00 a month just for the monitoring, so for me, it was a no-brainer to switch! Not to mention the extended warranty that covers all of your devices for as long as you keep the plan active! I have replaced contact sensors, cameras, and smoke detectors all for free for $100.00 a month. I know in 2025 the price will be increasing for me to $200.00 a year, but I still think itâs an awesome deal. ADT was costing me $720.00 a year just for the monitoring, and now I have video storage for 180 days, basically a lifetime warranty on all of the devices as I will never let the Protect plan lapse! ADT quoted me 8K to just install cameras around my property. Between the yearly cost savings for monitoring and all the replacement devices, I have paid for the initial cost of all the devices.
Itâs ridiculous that one Ring camera is $50 a year now when you can get the Ring unlimited plan currently for $100, but no telling how long that will last. I would consider getting more Ring cameras, but I donât need them since Iâm still getting 7 free days on my Arlo Pro 2 cameras. Not to mention that the only way to manage the a Ring cameras that I know of is using their two settings for Armed Home/Away modes available in the Ringâs Location via Alexa Routines. But still, using a SmartThings Alexa virtual device that could be controlled through SmartThings, but Iâd like to have three security modes, Home Day, Home Night, and Away.
Anyway, when this yearâs Ring subscription ends, it looks like Iâll probably go with the Eufy as my Ring doorbell replacement. That is unless I loose the grandfathered 7 free days on my Arlo Pro 2 cameras, then Iâm not sure which way Iâll go.
And now with other Amazon services also changing, like adding ads to Prime Video and losing Dobly Vision and Dobly Atmos unless I pay more for their add-free Prime Video service, Iâm not sure how much longer Iâll be paying for Amazon Prime either. Not to mention (I hate to say it), but how much do you want to bet that we will eventually have to start paying for Alexa access too!
I know it doesnât work with SmartThings but I really like the Wyze doorbell. I donât pay anything for a subscription and Iâve got it set to record continuously to a 128GB SD card. I know it doesnât work with SmartThings but I didnât really use that feature with Ring since I have a Next Hub and I can view the camera there.
Replaced my Ring Doorbell Pro this weekend with an Aqara G4, hardwired. Was able to set my kitchen iPad and Echo Show to switch to the camera feed when the doorbell is pressed though Homekit, HomeCam, and Shortcuts and Alexa for the Echo. So far is seems like a way more responsive setup than the Ring. Thanks for the information in this thread.
Now if I could justify replacing my exterior Blink camera system with something Homekit connected. Eyeing the Eufycam 2c Pro 4 camera kit with solar panels to avoid running line voltage to the camera locations.