This is exactly what I want it to do. Nest would eventually learn the correct set points to make sure all the remote censored areas get an equal balanced temp. Now you are saying there is no API for Nest Manager to query the current nest set point or the scheduler then yes basically none of this is possible.
With regard to routines, yes you are right I could leverage presence to set modes/routines, but it defeats the purpose of having a nest. Again, why not get just a zwave/zigbee thermostat then for much cheaper.
So for example, routines cannot configure the set point to cool to 74F at night and then slowly creep up to 77F by morning. Correct?
You could, but no Nest-Manager. I am not 100% sold on ST, so I want things to have multiple redundancies. For example the cloud was down yesterday, so ST rules would not have set temp. Nest fell back to its schedule.
Nest adds a few other nice things many don’t like the energy company integrations ($50 a year credit), the after blow of the AC.
@desertblade and @tonesto7 I looked through the API variables in the nest manager smart app and it seems that current set temp, scheduled set temp are all exposed. I see no reason why we cannot implement remote sensor data micro adjustments to the nest native scheduled temps so that rooms with remote sensor have more balanced temps.
@tonesto7 if you are that exhausted I don’t want to push you, but if you feel up to it, I have no problem describing what I’m asking for in more simple terms. I really don’t think its actually a huge a code change. I think it builds a bit more on what you already have and makes it slightly more dynamic. Let me know and perhaps we can connect on this if you feel up to it. If not, no biggie I may do more research on the ecobee side and see if that option works better for my use case moving forward.
For starters I like that nest uses presence to build an automated schedule for me. I also like that as I adjust the temp manually it learns my preferences.
The latter is when I go to bed I set my nest to 74F and as the night progresses I have the nest slowly creep the temp higher every hour until it reaches 77F in the morning before I wake up. Everything currently works great, except that some rooms are a few degrees warmer than where the nest thermostat is located in the hallway. My goal is to keep it simply and use motions with temp sensors to help equalize the temp in those rooms.
Yes I understand it might mean nest manager would have to adjust the nest temp away from the schedule to accomplish the balance of temps using remote sensor data.
Thats basically it. I know I can use routines and automate them with other variables but I feel like what I have already works why change it? Maybe I am totally wrong here, not sure… thoughts?
Nest-Manager will totally override your schedule. You can probably set up a routine to just execute the averaging with a morning routine (which would be home), and leave Nest schedule alone when in Night mode, which is when you incrementally warm up the room.
Another option may be to use something like Flair (https://flair.co/) pucks to help with remote temp settings. Not sure how they will handle schedules but their forum is pretty active. I have a few coming “soon” and I am excited to see if they help with the one room that is always colder (basement)
@desertblade yep I agree that in its current implementation nest manager will completely override my nest native scheduler. Thats exactly what I am hoping to get @tonesto7 to consider modifying. Look guys, at this point I sound like a squeaky wheel and I in no way want you guys to feel like I am not respectful of your time or the work you have done on Nest Manager. The smart app is freaking amazing and I commend you for this. I simply think we have a chance to fix a real annoyance with the nest here, but more and more we talk about I am getting confused on whether we can actually accomplish what I am looking for or not. If not, then perfectly fine, but if we can this can become a huge useful use case for many people.
So @tonesto7 let me know if you feel up to it and we can discuss in a bit more detail what i think needs to be changed. If not no biggie… ::cheers::
Nope, you are correct. Looks like I followed a link that went to an old terms and agreements page. But if I just click on the Sign Up it doesn’t say anything about being US only. I’ll make the switch today. Thanks!