I am trying to setup a GE 45600 Remote as a secondary controller. I would like to leave it on the coffee to control lights instead of having to always use my cell phone to simply turn on a few lights. Can some please provide step by step instructions on how to pair the remote with the ST Hub? This would be very helpful for many other as I have seen this same question in several places. Thanks is advance.
After some more digging, I found the answer in the following thread:
I have successfully been able to pair my GE 45600 with the ST Hub. Thanks Community!
Sounds like exactly what Iām looking for. I have an existing 2Gig system with 1 ZWave Kwikset lock. Now with the Smartthings hub, Iād like to figure out to add the 2Gig as a secondary controller.
So do I understand correctly that your locks are now on the ST hub and not the 2Gig? Whatās the process when youāre arming the 2Gig with respect to the ST hub?
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They almost operate independently of each other. Smartthings can lock your locks just as the 2gig can. I typically donāt lock the locks from smartthings though. I have a rule on alarm.com to lock my doors when the system is armed. The locks themselves can also be set to autolock in 30 seconds.
Excellent. Ok, so hereās where I am. Iāve removed the lock from the 2Gig. Iāve added it to Smartthings. I then added the 2Gig as a secondary controller to the Smartthings.
I can see āSecure Keypad door lock unknown manufacturerā under the Door Locks Section.
I can control the locks from the Smartthings app, but I canāt control from 2Gig or Alarm.com.
Thoughts? Ideally I want to do exactly what youāre doing, be able to control with both but primarily with Alarm.com.
I want to use the smartthings to automatically lock the door based on certain times of day.
Also, are you able to have multiple codes for users on Alarm.com? Thatās what I had, definitely would like that functionality.
Thanks!
I am also curious about this. I tried the same last night, I removed everything from the 2gig panel, added to smartthings, then set the 2gig as the secondary controller. I ran into the same issue, my locks couldnāt be controlled by the 2gig or alarm.com. Wondering how others have done it, if it works?
Me too, Iām still stuck. I canāt get the 2Gig / Alarm.com to see the actual lock and be able to control it.
As of last night, my lock is no longer controllable within the SmartThings App. I can see itās status updating, but I canāt lock/unlock it any longer.
I havenāt had time to figure out what happened there yet.
Iād love it if someone could list the step by step for pairing the 2Gig so that it sees the lock.
Any chance you can expand on how you got your 2Gig to be the secondary controller while still seeing the Zwave lock as well as seeing it in Alarm.com? All I seem to be able to see is the unknown Zwave device. Iāve deleted the 2Gig from the ST Hub, reset it from the 2Gig panel and the run āLearn Controllerā again.
Question, when you added it to the ST Hub, you didnāt need to do anything special, right? There wasnāt a Pairing mode or Join mode for the ST Hub to be in, correct? I just pressed the + and selected Connect New Device.
Any guidance would be super appreciated!
I finally had a chance to do some testing with mine today. No good results though.
My 2gig panel is on firmware 1.9.2 - I ordered a cable from the states, and will try upgrading the firmware on that panel to see if that helps. Probably be a week or two before it arrives here.
I added my devices to the Smartthings hub, and then added my 2gig as a secondary controller. I tested with the smartthings right by the 2gig to ensure the data transfers and it links up okay. Under the advanced, and all devices, I can see everything links, and gets an ID, but, the locks show as unknown lock, and have no id number.
Reading other forums, I know the locks use a secure inclusion, and old posts indicate they canāt link up to more than one controller. So, not really sure. I couldnāt get my locks, or my thermostat to link properly on the 2gig as secondary.
Iāll try the new 2gig firmware (1.10.1) when the cable comes and see if that makes any difference. Other than that, Iām out of ideas. I even tried adding the locks into the 2gig, and making smartthings as the secondary, but, I couldnāt get the 2gig to take smartthings as a secondary.
Ughā¦ Iām totally unclear as to how others are doing this. I donāt want the 2Gig to do anything else other than let me manage the lock and lock codes from the Alarm.com website and not have to do it though ST.
So I currently am only able to lock/unlock my 910ās directly from the 2Gig Panel, as I do not have any web interface options enabled for the locks. My panel is āunlockedā. Iām not sure about the firmware of my panel either, but I can find out. On my 2Gig, the locks show up as Black and Decker (weird).
My 2Gig controller was in place before I had SmartThings (just used a few GE Outlets). When I got my kickstarted SmartThings I then removed all the devices from the 2Gig, set up SmartThings and then paired all my Outlets to SmartThings. I then paired my 2Gig to SmartThings (it shows up as a ācontrollerā), but does not indicate if itās primary or secondary (in theory, pairing it to my SmartThings should make it secondary).
A few months later I added my first 910 to SmartThings. I had a ton of issues due to my lack of proper physical installation of the lock (jamb issues, etc.). Once I fixed those issues I was able to pair the lock to SmartThings (at one point I thought the lock was broken, but was assured it was an installation issue) and control the lock without much fuss.
One thing I noticed over time is that once I add a compatible z-wave device to SmartThings, it shows up on the 2Gig, usually accurate with the vendor information, but not always (using the name of my lock as one example). I also had an odd z-wave outlet that would not work with 2Gig, but paired to SmartThings the 2Gig sees it, and controls it just fineā¦
I guess, Iām not really able to tell you much more about what goes on via Alarm.com. I am under the impression (based on my other installs) that what I see on the 2Gig is then presented to me in Alarm.com provided you pay for that level of access. In short, if it works on the 2Gig panel, then it should work on the website. My locks work from the 2Gig and from SmartThings, but I dont see the locks on Alarm.com (almost up from my contract too).
Sorry for the lag, Iāll try and post a bit more if necessary.
Thanks for the reply!
My Kwikset 910 does show up as a Black and Decker on the 2Gig panel as well.
Something I hadnāt tried would be to add the lock to the ST hub after pairing the 2Gig. When Iāve tried it, the lock has always already been paired to the ST hub.
I like you had the 2Gig prior to the ST but I only ever had the 1 lock. Let me go try out removing the lock and then re-pairing the 2Gig to the ST hub and the the lock. Iāll report backā¦
Ok, the plot thickensā¦ You got me closer with that last tip!
Ok, Removed the lock from ST.
Added the 2Gig to ST hub as a secondary.
Added the 910 to ST Hub
Initially, I didnāt see it, but after a few min the 2Gig sees the Black and Decker lock again!
Thatās the good newsā¦ The bad news appears to be that there is a security binding problem on the 2Gig and it wants me to remove the device and re-add it. Iām not sure that will clear up my problem. Iāll keep at it.
on the security binding thing, do you mean it sees it as a ābadā z-wave device and wants to remove it? I have that with my AEON sensors, only due to the 2Gig not knowing what they actually are. Not sure if thatās what you meanā¦
Just curious if you unlocked your 2Gig during the 48 hour window, or if you own it outright (therefore it should be āunlockedā).
You can rescan your z-wave network from the 2Gig to speed up the discovery process of new devices added to your primary hub.
Thatās exactly what I meant.
WHOAā¦ ok, it looks like weāre up now. So the security keys thing wasnāt working when I added the lock to the ST hub.
So I removed the lock and added it directly to the 2Gig. Took 3-4 min, but the ST saw it as an unconfigured device, so I just added it. 3-4 min later, all is well.
So the steps were:
remove lock if installed.
pair 2gig to ST hub
wait 4-5 min
Add Lock to 2Gig panel
Wait 4-5 min
Open ST App on device and add newly found lock.
Wait 4-5 for everything to sync up and get happy.
Thatās it. Finally! Thanks for the bit about adding AFTER pairing the panel. Brilliant.
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Awesome. Glad it worked outā¦ just needed a bit of banter, right 
Cheers.
So, Iām actually still under contract with Vivint. I just happen to know both my installer code, and my toolbox and advanced toolbox codes.
You are correct, the rescheduling of the Z wave network greatly speeds up the discovery process.
So aside from your door locks, is there anything else youāre controlling from SmartThings in conjunction with a 2gig panel?
I initially built in a bit of redundancy for my automation. My internet would go out at least once a week, and Iād need to toggle my routerā¦ Basically I had a z-wave outlet that my router plugged in to. When Iād lose internet, Iād open the Vivint app and turn off/on said z-wave outlet. I would pretty much do the same for the thermostat I have as well, the internet would go out in my house and Iād be away on work unable to set the thermostat, turn on my router, or get any decent remote access to my house. It was a nice back doorā¦ my neighbor cut down the tree that was the source of the problem, been great every since. Slightly off topic, but related to the redundancyā¦ I put a TCP Lighting system in just in case SmartThings would go down, or have issues. All things considered I just want to bake in all my functions in to SmartThings and have a 3G card directly to the SmartThings hub as my backup (cheaper).
I had Vivint for 2 years before SmartThings, and it was ok for the time and my need. It ājust worksā, but compared to everything I have access to now Iād be hard pressed to go back.
I heard the āvivint skyā package is a little āsmarterā, but Iāve yet to lay my hands on it
Hi All. I posted this question earlier but does anyone have basic info on how to pair the 2gig go panel as a secondary controller to the ST hub?
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I finally got mine working as well. I am with Reliance Protectron, and have my installer code as well. I found upgrading the panel to firmware 1.10.1 made a huge improvement. You actually have the controller shift option, and primary and secondary panels co-operate much better. Previously I was on a 1.9 something firmware.
I was able to add everyting, my locks, lights, plugs, and thermostat to my Smartthings, and then add the 2gig, everything works. I have full access to the locks, lights, plugs, and the thermostat on smartthings, the 2gig, and alarm.com. Everything works great now.
I tested adding new devices, and then just quickly running check network on the 2gig, adds them in there as well.
@redlikemethodz Adding the 2gig panel as a secondary. You need to use smartthings to add a new device, then, on the 2gig go to services, zwave, then the toolbox (bottom right icon), you will need your installer code, then advanced, and learn controller. This will add the 2gig as the secondary. It will just show up as a controller on your smartthings. I previously had a 1.9 firmware, and it still worked, but, not nearly as well as with the 1.10.1 firmware.