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I still haven’t had any luck joining my ST hub to my vera 2 z-wave network.
Well that was not how I typically enjoy an evening after work. I’ll do my best to go over the process and some of the things I learned along the way last night…
The first thing I tried to do was to make my Vera a secondary controller with ST being the primary. I even checked the box in the Vera interface about not automatically configuring devices so that it doesn’t erase them on the other controller. Did not matter. They all got wiped. So now I’m looking at over an hour of excludes and this brings me to my most important lesson learned. Never ever pair a Z-Wave device with a ST hub. If anybody can point out to me what I’m missing, I’m all ears, but I don’t think there is any way to exclude something without it being very close to your electrically powered and ethernet cable connected ST hub. Soooo, for the second time in as many days I found myself moving the washing machine enough that I could remove (as opposed to rip out) a carefully installed Utilitech water sensor. At this point I decided to go scorched earth and completely wiped out the ST hub and factory reset the Vera.
My procedure began with both controllers empty and unconfigured. I started with the Vera having decided it would be my primary Z-Wave controller. Paired up three different battery powered Ecolink devices - a motion sensor, garage door tilt sensor, and a door/window sensor. I then went through the initial configuration and setup steps on the ST hub and paired up an ST multisensor. I figured I had done enough to where I should join the two controllers together and see what the fallout might be.
Following the documentation from MCV did not work. There is a button labeled something like “Join your Vera to another Z-Wave network”. I first clicked option to Join another network on the ST, then the same option on the Vera. It just timed out and failed. I then tried the Join on the ST followed by a full power include on the Vera. Timed out and failed. Finally I tried the Join on the ST followed by a low power include on the Vera and it worked - I think. The ST hub shows as a multibutton scene controller on the Vera and the Vera doesn’t show at all on the ST. However, all of the Z-Wave devices on the Vera appeared in the devices list on the ST as “Z-Wave Device”. The status for those devices would not change at all on the ST while they would accurately and immediately change on the Vera. And after I paired up a Z-Wave GE electric outlet, I wasn’t able to turn it on or off from the ST, but I could do so from the Vera. I then decided to edit each of the “Z-Wave Device” entries and change their type to whatever they actually were - Z-Wave Motion Sensor, etc. The status still will not change for me, but now I am able to turn an outlet or a light switch on and off. So it seems that controlling something controllable will work, but getting current status will not. Something else to keep in mind - Vera uses decimal increments for the ID numbers, while ST uses hex with a leading zero. So ID number 10 on your Vera will appear as ID number 0A on the ST. Where it gets a little confusing is ID 16 on your Vera will be ID 10 (the hex number 16) on your ST. Just a little something to keep in mind.
Lastly, I am glad to report that the Zigbee based multisensor did not get wiped out during the join operation and that I can still pair up Zigbee devices to the ST hub even though I don’t have the option to directly pair a Z-Wave device anymore since the ST hub is now a secondary Z-Wave controller. Now I am kind of at a point that I really wanted to avoid. I am guessing that if I want my Vera to react to any Zigbee devices I’m going to need to bone up on Groovy and write something to send data to the Vera and then I’ll need to start brushing up on and writing LUUP code for the Vera to respond to those messages. If I am successful in sending anything to the Vera, I’ll probably try to write a generic Vera app that intercepts from ST, hopefully making things easier down the road for others. If I didn’t like those dang multisensors so much, or if they were available in Z-Wave, I probably wouldn’t go through the hassle.
Anyway, I hope this can help some people with joining their ST to something else or at least understanding the limitations of doing so.