Lowe's Iris is officially history!

JDRoberts · February 4, 2019, 10:11pm

Samsung staff don’t officially read this forum. (There’s another forum over at Samsung that they do read. This one was started several years ago so that smartthings customers could help each other.)

That said, lots of people in this community do use the Gen 2 iris keypads with SmartThings. It still won’t give you the kind of security system that you had with Iris for a number of reasons, but you can certainly use those devices if you want to.

Read the following FAQ for discussion of the differences between the ADT model hub and the other smartthings hubs when it comes to security:

FAQ: Confused by "Regular" Hub and "ADT" SmartThings Hub. Need clarification (2019)

Anyway, there are several different device type handlers (DTHs) which work with the iris Gen 2 keypad.

Most are offered free by other community members, but for locks and keypads I think it’s worth it to pay the $40 lifetime license fee for access to @RBoy apps. It’s just one license fee and then you get access to the whole library.

[RELEASE] Enhanced ZigBee Keypad - Centralite Keypad, Lowes IRIS Keypad, UEI Keypad and Xfinity Keypad Device Handler Devices & Integrations

RBoy Apps is a SmartThings partner for Centralite On popular request request here is a Enhanced ZigBee Keypad device handler that can make your keypad work like a lock keypad in SmartThings so it can work with SmartApps designed for managing locks/doors/garage doors, user codes and lots more. (see below for more details). [IMG_1748] [image] [Photo%20Apr%2019%2C%2011%2051%2057%20AM] [Photo%20Apr%2019%2C%2012%2056%2009%20PM] [image] [SmartLocksCompatible] This Device Handler is compatible with most ZigBee keypads like the Centralite, UEI, Xfinity and Lowes Iris keypads. The UEI keypad can be bought from eBay for about $15 The Xfinity keypads can be purchased from Comcast Home Security or from eBay (3400-X and XHK1) for about $10 to $20 The Lowes IRIS v3 keypad (IL021) can be bought from…

You’ll find this is a very popular add on in the community, and they do offer their own support. It does mean using the classic version of the SmartThings mobile app and installing custom code, but you get a lot more features by doing that.

On the other hand… We have been told that eventually the classic App go away. But not when. So there is a risk that you will lose that investment in the future as well.

The alternative is to wait until smartthings brings out the keypad that they announced in January 2019. Obviously they know they need one.

prjct92eh2 · February 4, 2019, 10:12pm

They key word was works out of the box. As you know, SmartThings is an open platform, and currently you can get those devices working with some copying and pasting in the developer portal.

[RELEASE] Lowes Iris and XFinity CentraLite keypad DTH + Apps Community Created Device Types

Continuing the discussion from [CentraLite Keypads] (CentraLite Keypads): This DTH is based on @mitchp’s original code, with improvements from @RudiP, as well as: Nicer tiles (largely from RudiP’s work) Better support for the tome capability Supports the panic button both as a contact sensor and a button (button 1) Supports reporting motion via the keypad wakeup sensor. Improved pairing procedure to be more reliable Support for the Tamper switch (Via tamper capability) Support for Entry and Exit delay beeps via SmartAlarm + User Lock Manager Support for Exit delay beeps via User Lock Manager Can be used with User Lock Manager, or with User Lock Manager and SmartAlarm Keypad Improved User Lock Manager SmartApp: Support multiple keypads Support Keypad exit delay Improved SmartAlarm Sm…

Utilitech Glass Break Detector (DTH in post 20) Connected Things

I’ve published the first version of the device type: Add that as a ST device type and it will automatically detect newly paired sensors as Utilitech Glass Break sensors. It’s still a work in progress, but the currently published version will report battery levels and report glass-break events as an open/close Contact Sensor. I’m still testing and debugging; this device is definitely a strange one. It routinely fires triplicate events and sometimes just stops responding to the physical button altogether for a period of time. It has been reliable at reporting glass-break events however. I left all of the debug logging in place. Let me know what kind of events you see (and their frequency). It will be interesting to see if they all behave as weirdly as mine. Adam

enhall1985 · February 4, 2019, 10:15pm

As you know I come from iris and they pretty much did everything so I don’t know much about DTH and adding apps I mean I could learn I guess but I think maybe I’ll wait for the SmartThings keypad so I don’t screw wverythjng up, thanks for the info, did they give a launch date?

JDRoberts · February 4, 2019, 10:16pm

I don’t think so, @prjct92eh2 might know.

enhall1985 · February 4, 2019, 10:18pm

Thinking maybe I should just give this a chance I guess if I screw It up I’ll jist come back here and ask how to fix it lol

JDRoberts · February 4, 2019, 10:20pm

This should help.

FAQ: An Overview of Using Custom Code in SmartThings (SmartThings Classic) FAQ

So you’re new to SmartThings, you asked a question, and someone suggested “custom code” as an answer. Or you were browsing the forums, and you found something that sounded like it would be perfect for what you wanted, but again, “uses custom code.” What does that mean, how hard is it to do, and what’s the difference between a “SmartApp” and a “Device Type Handler”? (Note: the official terminology has changed a couple of times. “device type handler,” “device handler,” “DTH,” and “device type” all mean the same thing, and you will find all these terms used in the forums.) SECTION I: SMARTAPPS AND DEVICE HANDLERS: WHAT THEY ARE SmartAPPS: Tiny Programs to decide what a specific device should do when, or to collect the information from a specific device SmartApps, including the various f…

Mavrrick58 · February 4, 2019, 10:49pm

Check out ADT Tools 2 and Lock Manager. We actually stalk about using Lock Manager to enable secondary keypads through ADT Tools at Thingsthataresmart.com

RBoy · February 5, 2019, 1:44am

Actually it does work with the new app (both apps and the device handler). You need to the Classic app only to install the LUM SmartApp (the new app doesn’t support installing SmartApps yet). The Keypads however can be installed directly using the IDE and the new app also.

Terminal · February 5, 2019, 1:16pm

There was someone who posted on another forum that Lowes had several offers but turned them all down. This person claimed they had investors and made one of the offers. He claimed Lowes decided they were shutting it down and there was no other option. It was on the internet so it must be true,

One of the Lowes employees who monitors their community forum had posted several times that Iris was going no where and when the word came down he claimed he was as blindsided as anyone. Apparently some of the support staff others have talked to, have said similar things.

Some have claimed they wanted to take a loss for the business for tax purposes, but whatever the reason it’s kind of crappy for those that depend on it and some did. For me it’s great I will get about $700 that I can use to get something better in my shop and upgrade a few things in my ST system in the house.

JDRoberts · February 5, 2019, 2:24pm

Lowe’s CEO made a formal public announcement to investors back in November that they were actively seeking a buyer for the Iris platform. That would fall under SEC rules on “investor guidance,” so he could go to jail if that had not been true.

That doesn’t mean they had to accept just any offer if it wasn’t good for Lowe’s overall, and it could be that a total writeoff ended up being financially better for them, but they were definitely open to selling.

(CEPro is an industry journal with a good reputation for accuracy on the business side of these issues.)

SteveWhite · February 5, 2019, 6:36pm

It’s also likely that any offer would come with a requirement of a transitional period in which Lowes would still have a stake in the platform. It’s likely they just wanted to get out before the end of the quarter and shutting it down was the most fiscally responsive move.

Rxich · February 5, 2019, 8:24pm

I’d suggest you take a look at Hubitat, for totally local processing, and an extremely wide selection of supported devices, even more than ST

Cbarth3 · February 5, 2019, 9:01pm

Wow looks like my local lowes pulled all iris. Couldn’t find anything in the clearance area also.

lflorack · February 5, 2019, 9:11pm

Mine looks like that too. If I understand it correctly, the stores are supposed to be sending all of their unsold stock back to corporate (or wherever they told the stores to send them).

Cbarth3 · February 5, 2019, 10:09pm

That’s a bummer I was hoping to get sensors for cheap. Figured they are going open source some of it just fire sale it all.

ritchierich · February 6, 2019, 3:12am

My store was tearing part the Iris section this morning, taking down all the “flare”. I asked the manager and they were told to send everything back. I suspect because of the buyback they are doing, preventing anyone from adding new devices to Iris for additional buyback. I wish they would put everything on clearance after the buyback period is over. The motions and contacts are great sensors.

NomadTech · February 6, 2019, 5:12pm

Just spoke with them. Additional reimbursement can be had but only for generation 1 devices, not for anything that works with other systems.

Terminal · February 6, 2019, 5:51pm

I called and it took me about 30 minutes on the phone to get the additional reimbursement, and yes it is only for V1 items.

MarkTr · February 6, 2019, 6:21pm

Did they require an account or other documentation for the gen 1 devices? I accidentally bought a gen 1 plug a long time ago and never found anyone to take it off my hands…

Spooky_pitboss · February 6, 2019, 7:05pm

Just got off the phone with iris. About a 20 minute wait, not too bad. I told them I have a V1 keypad and V1 motion sensor that I had from a while back, that never stayed connected and I gave up on a long time ago since they never stayed connected.

I re-paired them AFTER they took a snapshot of my current devices. They said I should go through with the redemption process, which I clicked through while I was on the phone, and then they can send my request for my other devices forward. Waited a few more mins and eventually requested a call back. Got the call about 20 mins after, and they said my other two devices will get another visa prepaid card in addition to my first one. Pretty happy with that honestly.

So, long story short, you do no need to return anything, unless it was just purchased within 90 days. I will be reimbursed at almost retail for devices that are years old. I heard nothing about a “limit” on a reimbursement amount. I’ve had Iris since the beginning of the system, and have a lot of V1 devices.

I initially was super pissed at Lowe’s, but all in all it’ll be nice to work with a more robust system, that seems to have a million supported devices and connectivity.