Logitech Harmony Questions

The small one is nice… just double check if it lights up. I have one of the original and no back light is a problem sometimes for me.

Just my 2 cents.

Harmony has an app too, I use that just as much as the physical remote. If you think you would never or rarely use a remote, the app should be fine. You can customize buttons and add sequences on top of your normal start/stop activities.

They are brand new at Best Buy for less than $100:


Pretty sure the Simple has no backlight, and it is a downside. But the battery lasts forever in it.

You can get the refurb with remote from amazon for $80. I purchased 2 refurbs and both were brand new looking. OP is in the UK, and only been available for a few months there so probably not a lot of refurbs.


Thanks for all the info people, yea I’m in the UK so slight different options but got info needed and just considering what I’m doing to be using it for. Most the devices I want to switch on are RF

Maybe save and get one with a good remote, means getting rid of the 4 I currently have sat next to me


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I am using an old Logitech Harmony IR remote but I want to upgrade to a new remote that will also control my Amazon Fire TV. Looking at the hub-based Harmony remotes, it seems like they can also be used to control the zwave light switches that I’ve installed for use with my SmartThings hub. Is this correct? If I buy the Harmony Companion (http://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/harmony-companion?crid=60) is this sufficient to get the job done? I don’t understand what the Harmony Home Hub Extender (http://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/harmony-home-hub-extender?crid=60) is for. Do I have to buy that as well as the Harmony Companion in order to control Zwave switches?


That is the one I have and yes can control the lights.

It is limited though, you have to have separate on/off button presses (short versus long). Only can control 4 switches on the remote. Probably more in the app, but if I was going to use an App it would be ST.

My understanding of Home extender is if you want to control zwave/zigbee lights without another hub (like SmartThings) you will need to purchase that. I don’t have one.

@desertblade is correct: the harmony hub extender is for people who do not have SmartThings.

To control Z wave switches with a Harmony remote you would need the harmony hub plus the SmartThings hub or The harmony hub plus the harmony hub extender. But not all three.

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I personally prefer the touch remote so I am not limited to 4 devices. The only issue I have is that the remote doesn’t always have the latest status update of the lights. Might need to refresh my account data but that’s usually a painful process since it likes to fail often.

Thanks for your quick reply!
I’d like to be able to configure the Logitech to do something like:

Activity: Amazon Fire TV=
Turn on Amazon Fire TV
Turn on AV Receiver (choose appropriate input)
Turn on TV (choose appropriate input)
Set LR lights (2 Zwave switches) to 35%.

Is the consensus that I would be able to accomplish this with my existing SmartThings + switches + the Harmony Companion?

The Logitech website says that the Companion can control 8 devices.
If it is controlling the Zwave switches via SmartThings then I’m assuming that the SmartThings hub counts as one device, no matter how many lights it’s controlling. Is this an incorrect assumption? Does each light count as a single device? That would definitely be a problem as i already have my current IR Harmony controlling five devices.

That # is for the entertainment devices like TV, AVR, Bluray player etc…

Smart home devices are a separate category.

Only IR based devices (i.e. fans, electric fireplaces) will count as an entertainment device. ST will not

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Yes, this can be accomplished.

What you do is set all the settings in the activity and then run the Logitch Harmony (Connect) smart app in your Smart Things app and you can have it create a special ON/OFF switch in your SmartThings.

The switch turns off or on the activity.

EDIT: Likewise, SmartThings devices don’ t show up until you include them in the Harmony via integration. They are imported over from ST.

I’m the opposite. I prefer the simple remote, it is very to the point and does everything I need.

I have a tablet next to the couch. It was fire tablet, now its the Vizio remote tablet that I use smarttiles/logitech app for more advanced scenarios. I probably use it once a week.

You can do that, not sure through just the Harmony (I want to say yes). I have rules in CoRE that if my PS4 is on to set lights to a specific level. I have them tied into motion so that is why I use ST/CoRe.

I thought that I should follow up.
I bought the Harmony Companion and it’s working for me.
I do miss the screen and backlit buttons that I had on my Harmony One but it’s not worth an extra $150 to me.
I can use my iPad or iPhone to control the Harmony Hub, anyways. I happen to have an extra iPad mini and I will probably just leave it by the TV.
I’m also able to control the Harmony Hub activities from the SmartThings app so I have been able to do things like add “Radio” (my stereo receiver) to my “Good morning” SmartThings routine. My one gripe with using the Logitech Companion to control lights on Zwave switches is that the dimmer seems to lack much fine tuning (steps are too big). But other than that, it’s all good, and definitely worth the $100 for the Harmony hub with Companion (at Best Buy after getting $50 rebate for recycling an old Harmony remote).

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I ended up purchasing the Harmony Ultimate setup, so far it’s ok. No sure it’s worth the price tag. I certainly won’t be using the remote to control lights etc; it’s horrible for that!

It took me a while to get used to programming it, but got there in the end.

It’s nice to control it as part of ST, roll on when my Echo arrives


You should’ve gotten the Elite, it’s awesome for lights lol…

Yeah the Elite and the Home Control remotes are far superior for smart home control. I have an Ultimate and going through the menus takes longer than opening the ST app or yelling at Alexa. They really need to allow custom programming of ALL buttons on the remote to support this. And I know it’s not a technical limitation, they just want to sell more remotes…

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Guys, i cant seem to find my ST hub from the harmony ios app, when i add device then chose home control, i cant even find smartthings to add in the first place…any help please?

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I had to install MyHarmony desktop software (as instructed here) and add SmartThings manually (Manufacturer: SmartThings, Device Model Number: SmartThings).