Hub bad? Random lights triggered at random times

My system has been rock solid for many years but yesterday it lost it. About 8 of my devices are randomly turning on and one off at random times. These are a mix of smart bulbs and switches, my best guess is these are all Z-wave.

Rebooted my router and hub, no luck. I have 50-60 items in my system, but only the same set are triggered. If I had to guess I’d say it’s a gen. 2 hub. Only solution I’ve found is unplug the hub. All the stuff controlled by my AZ Echo works fine. Connected to 1.5G Xfinity home gateway.

If you have a SmartThings V2 hub, make sure you remove the backup batteries if you are intending to power cycle the hub.

power cycle your devices also

I’ve had a similar problem for a few years now: Z-Wave light - switches turning on in a random fashion. I’ve tried all the usual stuff to prevent it, rebooting the hub, resetting the devices and rejoining them, removing power etc. No automatic routines (other than making sure they are turned off once a day), no Alexa hunces ever at play.

No other Z-Wave or Zigbee - devices behaves this way.

Strange.

Hub V2, latest fw, AOS app, latest version, Heat-IT - switches.

Hi @matt832

Could you please share the Hub logs so our engineering team can analyze the issue?

Important:
Please also include the device name and the exact time with timezone when the issue occurred.

Example:

Device “Living Room Plug” was turned off at 9:43 AM (GMT-5)

If there are multiple actions, you’ll need to submit the Hub logs after each action.

Example:

  • Device “Plug 1” was turned off at 10:00 AM (GMT-6)
    → Submit Hub logs
  • One hour later, device “Plug 2” turned off at 11:00 AM (GMT-6)
    → Submit Hub logs again

How to provide the Hub logs:

  1. Go to: my.smartthings.com/advanced
  2. Click on Your Hubs
  3. Select the corresponding Hub
  4. Click on Dump Hub Logs
  5. If needed, update the reason for the log request
  6. Click Dump Hub Logs again
  7. Confirm that the request is submitted

:pushpin: Note: If you have more than one Hub, please tell us the name of the one involved in the issue.

Also, support access to your account

  1. Confirm the email account registered in the forum is the same one you use for SmartThings. If not, please share it with me over DM.
  2. Enable support access to your account:
  1. Go to the SmartThings Web (my.smartthings.com)
  2. Log in to your Samsung Account
  3. Select Menu (⋮) and choose Settings
  4. Toggle on Account Data Access
  5. Select the time period and confirm - In this step, please select “Until turned off”, once the team finishes, we’ll let you know so you can disable it again.

More info about this access here: https://support.smartthings.com/hc/en-us/articles/36170233944852-Enabling-Account-Data-Access-for-Support

Hi @S.F.B

Have you already reported this issue previously? If not, please provide the same information listed above so we can investigate.

Will do when it happens again. Max 12 hrs afterwards, isnt it?

(Would be nice if the dump could be automated though (if turns on, dump log))

I turned on log access, and up loaded logs. I sent a number of events,but too many devices and events to document them all.

I was wrong earlier - most are Zigbee devices though some are Z Wave.

Thanks @matt832
We really appreciate you enabling support access and uploading the logs!

The only problem is that with so many devices and events, it’s almost impossible for the engineering team to know which one is misbehaving unless we have a clear reference point. Without that, everything just looks like normal activity in the logs.

Could you share just one specific example?

  • The name of one device that behaved unexpectedly
  • The exact time and timezone when it turned on/off

Just one concrete example is enough for now. Once they find a pattern, they’ll be able to check other events more easily.

Thanks again for your help!

I uploaded 7 or 8 events, and indicated in the header the device name and the time of the event.

2 incidents for a single device the last <48 hrs. Logs dumped. Account access granted and account id DM’ed.

EDIT: I made a routine to notify me when random switching (of a prone device) occurs. It didn run as the device turned on this morning (as per the app log) though, something that in itself might be of interest?

(The device is in a remote location so unless I happen to see that lights are on using a surveillance camera before a daily routine runs to switch off all lights, I had to make a routine to get notified)

Hi @matt832

Thanks for the update!

Just to clarify, when you mention “headers,” could you let us know exactly what you’re referring to? We haven’t received any information on our end via email.

If you submitted something through the SmartThings app (like a report or support request), that goes to Customer Support, not to our engineering team, and we don’t have access to those submissions.

Also, it’s important to note that we specifically need the Hub logs, not the mobile app logs. The Hub logs contain the technical details our engineers need to investigate the issue.

Please follow the steps outlined above to collect and submit the Hub logs. Let us know if you need help with that process!

Thanks for the detailed update and for granting account access!

Just a quick note, for the engineering team to properly analyze the issue, we’ll need Hub logs that clearly match the device behavior you’re referring to.

Please follow the steps outlined above to collect and submit the Hub logs. Let us know if you need help with that process!

I did make a dump and made an annotation to it explaining what/when/which. Did it not come through?

Edit 20.10.25: Any update on this @Itati

Edit: 04.12.25: Any update on this @Itati

I send a number of log requests from the website as outlined, clicking “Dump Hub Logs” after noting device and time in the displayed text box displaying my email address. Is this incorrect?

I’ve taken to unplugging the hub when I go to bed as lights going on and off all night and day is problematic. If I had some estimate of the time your team might need access I’d make sure it was powered on.