GE Zwave+ on sale at Lowes

Jasco! We manufacture devices for GE though :slight_smile:

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Also I’ll just leave this here for a little more Lowe’s discount…

http://mmerson.com/

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GE or Zooz? I’ve previously decked out with GE and I have nothing against them (except for their stupid choice with the LED behavior on the fan switch!), I’m about to move and don’t know if I should just stick to GE or try something different.

I always recommend the GE Plus Paddle Switches/Dimmers (Brand Loyalty). I’ve also installed the Zooz and they are about as good but the feel is a little different.

Can’t go wrong with either.

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GE motion sensor versus Zooz, go zooz.
GE uses CR123 batteries making no sense money wise. Even recharging ones won’t last more than a month.
My zoos 4in1 is running on 2 AA for now more than one year although it shows 1% left since last December :wink:

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For motion sensors I pretty much only ever use Ecolinks, the first two I bought are still going on the original batteries… from over three years ago. Not only that but they are in high traffic areas and have been set in ‘test’ mode so that they unlatch in 4 seconds since the start.

I believe they use CR123’s as well.

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Dude… you need to tell them to fix the LED settings on the fan switches…

Plus the decision to change the ramp rate to just instantly jump when sent a “set level” command ruined a large part of the experience, it’s part of the reason I was looking elsewhere based on that alone.

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I have 8 of these. What’s going on with the LED settings? I’ll admit that I typically don’t change speeds much but still curious as to the “issue”…

There’s a custom DTH that allows you to change to your likings. This is for the non-plus series…

The new z-wave plus fan switches cannot have the LED modified programmatically. You can only change it by manually pressing the switch. I would like to keep the LED off, which isn’t an option. With the old z-wave fan switch I can change the LED settings to simulate off.

@Benji

@jhamstead

Was the ramp rate change for the fan switch or regular dimmer? I have the older model of Ge dimmers and fan switches but will upgrade to plus at some point.

I have not changed the built-in led behavior but if default behavior of the dimmers have changed then …

I love you man :slight_smile: Just scored 2 paddle dimmers and 2 paddle switches for a grand total $101.96!

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I don’t own a GE Z-Wave Plus dimmer so I can’t say for sure, but the ramp rate doesn’t really matter for the fan switch since it has only four speeds (off/low/medium/high).

On another note, I wish they’d institute ramp rate for the GE ZigBee dimmers, but that setting is not implemented in the switches I own. They turn instant on/off.

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LEDs can now be inverted or disabled on our newer devices! Our fan control, not though. We want you to be able to know how fast your fan is going.

I can invert the new Z-wave plus fan switch LEDs using the on/on/on/off manual toggle method. Just not with a Z-wave command.

Don’t forget there are coupon codes available for Lowes online purchase. In addition, one may order through Google Express too if you have coupon codes for it. I just use my 25% off coupon from Tmobile Tuesday offer.

That’s the issue, “never lit” doesn’t work and when I contact Jasco about it, that’s basically what they said (I realise you’re from Jasco). There are two points about this though:

  1. Never lit should mean just that, never lit, at all, ever and I’ll just have to suck it up not having a visual indication of speed (though in my opinion, it’s pretty obvious from the fan itself).
  2. Or, never lit but when the speed changes, just flash for the speed change and then go back to being “never lit”.

It’s really frustrating in the bedroom when there’s a beaming blue light coming from the switch. I get that I could put something over the LED but the point is, the functionality is there in the other switches, it should be there for the fan as well.

I’ll try the custom DTH but another one I tried didn’t work. Jasco said that it was part of the change for ZW+ but I know for a fact it’s not exclusive to ZW+ as I have some of the later 12724 dimmers that behave the same.

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Benji, I hear ya 100%. We’re constantly updating our firmware to adapt to customer concerns and issues and we’re looking at this one currently. The problem is there just isn’t a convenient way to get the new firmware out to customers’ existing devices, even after fixes are implemented. That is something else I’m pushing within the group; How can we provide OTA updates for customers…Unfortunately, not many hubs have made it to the point where they can push out updates periodically to connected devices.

Yeah I didn’t word my response clearly. Sorry for the confusion! Working on mobile isn’t the best idea.

It’s at least good to hear you looking into it. I realise ST and many other hubs don’t do Z-Wave OTA updates yet although I do have an Aeotec/AEON Z-Wave stick I could in theory move a device over to, perform an update and then re-add it back to ST. Could the files at least be made available for download? Aeotec/AEON are very good in providing firmware update files, it would be nice if other manufacturers followed their example.

Z-Wave OTA updates have been discussed many times before, I’ve commented on this issue before with Z-Wave switches when ST was asking use cases for ZW OTA updates:

Even so far back as ~3 years ago from a quick search:

wink wink knudge nudge @Kianoosh_Karami @tpmanley @nastevens @posborne @duncan … Yeah I did it… I tagged everyone… and I’d do it again for ZW OTA updates :stuck_out_tongue:

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I keep my Iris v2 hub handy as I have planned to update a bunch of devices.