Arlo - Motion sensor trigger recording (replace IFTT)?

Hi All,

I have an Arlo camera monitoring the front of our house. I’ve always found the motion sensing to be a bit hit and miss and ended up installing a secondary outdoor smart things compatible motion sensor to trigger the recording via IFTT/Smartthings - it works well and makes sure I’m recording on the occasions when the camera didnt pick up the motion - but there is a delay in triggering the recording via IFTT.

I understand that Arlo is now supported under smart things. I want to set up a rule to replace the IFTT integration.

If motion detected by the motion sensor start recording. Ideally I don’t want to rely on smart things to do the recording or to use the security dashboard etc. Instead, just a direct replacement for the IFTT rule. On motion detected tell the arlo to start recording (using its own cloud storage in the normal way).

Is this possible at this stage?

Thanks in advance!

ST and Arlo share your video clip. But, yes, I am doing that now. Custom SHM instance. You pick the motion sensor, the camera, the recording lenght and you’re done. Let me know if you need step by step directions.

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Thanks Bobby. What is a custom SHM instance?

Hope this helps, pick ‘motion sensor’ instead of ‘open/close’ using below directions…

Thanks and the video is also captured within the arlo cloud too?

Yes, but if you for some reason don’t see your videos on Arlo side, you can change the setting for the SmartThings mode…And now that I was thinking about SmartThings mode on Arlo side, you do need to first connect your cam to ST, before you hit SHM. Connecting your cam is easy. You go into Marketplace, security, cameras, pick Netgear then Arlo…That creates a new Arlo mode on the Arlo side called SmartThings.

Just to check a couple of things… I see the new mode, “smartthings” in arlo, which is now the mode that is enabled rather than the normal ‘armed’ mode.

I can go in to this and tell it to record on motion, rather than the default ‘do nothing’ which I assume will just use the cameras own motion sensing to kick off the recording.

I set the custom mode in the ST dashboard as you suggested, but does this mean that any recorded video triggered by the smart things motion sensor will also be visible within the arlo software? or are you saying that both can simply run side by side e.g. normal arlo direct triggered motion recording and the smart things triggered recording - but the smart things triggered will only be accessible within smart things itself and not arlo?

My objective is to replace the IFTT rule and maintain all recorded footage within the arlo software and just use the external motion sensor to improve the actual detection of motion.

Thanks for your help

Sorry, I didn’t have time to think it through earlier. The ST mode on Arlo side has nothing to do with what you are trying to accomplish. To reach your objective, all you need is the custom SHM. Every time it fires, you would have access to your clip on both sides. My setting on Arlo side is ‘do nothing’ and I can see the clips on both sides when my Aeon motion sensor is triggered.

Which Aeon motion sensor do you use? Is this better than the integrated in the Arlo camera or why do you use a separate motion sensor? Or is it spatially divided from the camera?

Thanks

I keep my cam too far from the entry door and is missing events during the day.

Today I had a fault alarm from my Arlo motion sensor. Not the problem, but then I noticed that ST doesn’t actually record the requested 30 sec. I can only see a “pic” which is shown as a movie with a length of 0:00. In the Arlo app I can view the 30 sec recording but not in ST.

Can anyone else confirm this? Not sure if theses changes depend on any hub or Android app updates?
Last time I tried this out I could view the 30 sec recording in the ST app and in Arlo too.

Thanks for any comments on this.

@Joern I’m able to view the entire clip in ST. It does say that the clip player is in beta, unsure if that’s a factor in your situation

@rsimp00 Thanks for the info. I just got the info that this is a recent known issue. Not sure why some can view the video and I and maybe others not.

I have been reading up on this Arlo ST integration and relationship quite a bit and I might have stumbled upon some helpful settings…so here it goes:

Using the settings below, renders these desired results:

1 - The motion sensors on my three Arlo cameras seem to stay inactive and not use battery.

Confirmed from a refreshed current state panel in the developers panel. In fact when they do go active for SHM or a custom rule, the red lights for night vision mode come on and stay on for the duration selected (30 sec, 1 min, or 2 min) but the motion sensor returns to inactive within seconds, confirmed with a repeatedly, quickly refreshed browser.

2 - The cameras remain active and available to be turned on via SHM or custom rules with no lag.

3 - The cameras send the same duration clip to ST mobile app (visible in intrusion alert and in history) AND to Arlo (even though “do nothing” rather than “record video” is selected in ST mode within Arlo settings) In fact, the duration of the clip saved to Arlo matches the duration selected in ST, 30 sec, 1 min or 2 min, huh.

Settings: (I got lucky, wouldn’t have tripped over it w/o all the feedback above and on other posts, thanks!)

Within Arlo:

1 - Click on SmartThings Custom Mode
2 - click edit next to first camera
3 - Make sure to select the same camera under “then do the following” as is selected under "if the following"
4 - Select do nothing
5 - Select push notification
6 - Click Save
7 - repeat steps 2-6 above for each camera

Now the motion sensors are not active and do not cause any recording to happen via arlo until ST tells it to do so, via either SHM or a custom rule.

So now use SMH or custom rules to setup when to use each camera for recording.

I currently have mine set to record when glass break sensors or door open/close sensors trigger when “Armed (Home)” and set to record whenever any sensor goes off when “Armed (Away)”.

This is only my third day with the ST system, and I have yet to set a custom rule except for testing. I hope to set up the cameras to record only when their own motion sensors trigger (or adjacent glass break), rather than all three cameras recording when any door or glass triggers when home, or when any sensor triggers when away.

Turn off notifications for the Arlo App on your mobile device, or simply do not install it. For me, the clips on the ST mobile app, and the backup copy on Arlo is sufficient. Since I do not use the Arlo app, just STs mobile app, I never see or hear the notifications from Arlo. So the notification remains out of sight and outta mind:) Weird thing is that Arlo would not let me save my settings unless either the notifications or the email alert box was selected. I def don’t need any more email, ha, and in this case an invisible notification is perfect!

I do like having the double copy on Arlo, it is easy to see all the clips at once and navigate through bases on timeline; and can view on a larger screen if needed.

More weird things are that the duration settings within arlo will always default back to 10s no matter what you do or how many times you try to save them. Don’t worry about this, use the duration settings within SHM or custom rules and Arlo will follow suit. Another weird thing is that the “motion is detected” box in the “if the following” settings is clicked on by default and cannot be deselected. This does not affect this scenario, but is any additional observation.

Any feedback is appreciated, I just hope this helps someone with their scenario.

Bobby, is your Aeon outside? I live in Ohio and have two altos out front and would love a motion sensor or two to expand the motion areas to start recording a little earlier and grab the person/car for a longer period of time. Is that basically what you are doing?

Now you say these have no lag and that REALLY interests me because nothing I’ve been able to do eliminates that 1-2 second prerecord lag for me. When you say no lag is this from tests? In other words what I’m curious is if I’ve got a camera pointed at my front door inside and use these settings does the video show the door just starting to crack open ie <1 inch kind if thing? Currently if I tried this test I’d get a video of me stepping through the door as the beginning of the clip. Using the motion sensor on the camera on my front porch the mail lady can walk up the drive, up 2 flights of 4 steps and drop the package by the time it starts recording. I typically have a picture of the top of her hat as my starting frame or the back of her head. Something like this:

I would try your settings out but honestly I’m afraid to change my Arlo settings anymore. I had to wrestle and massage my settings to work as well as they do. Anytime I changed a setting especially in the ST app it would wipe things out on the Arlo side and then I’d have no camera’s working until I fixed it again.