Any Concord 4 alarm panel users out there?

@sdozier I’m trying to get the company to replace the unit. They made me talk to Interlogix who have been really easy to work with.

In the meantime, I still can’t grasp the following diagram and was hoping you could help. I don’t understand the zone wiring. I get that there should be a wire from the AM’s ‘zone 1’ to ‘zone 1’ on the Concord 4 and assume that ‘zcom’ is ‘z common’ meaning it should be connected to a zone ground on the Concord 4. Is that right?

The part I don’t understand is if I need to use a 2k resistor and, if so, which configuration I should use (Normally Open or Normally Closed). Part of the confusion is I don’t know what the trapezoid icons are depicting. Are those supposed to be devices or the zone contacts on the Concord 4 board?

Does any of that matter? Can I just connect ‘zone 1’ on the AM to ‘zone 1’ on the C4 and ‘zcom’ on the AM to ‘gnd’ on the C4?

Attaching pics for reference.


Thanks for any insight you can provide,
Matt

You don’t even need to connect the zone 1/zcom connection, that is only if
you are installing a tamper switch in the automation module. I only wired
+12vdc, bus a, bus b and gnd.

Do remember to a discover bus devices like you are installing a new keypad.
8+4321+00 I think (or unplug/plug back in power to alarm panel)

Thanks for the clarification. That makes sense now that I think about it.

I did the bus scan from the keypad (I think it’s 8 + 4321 + 01. Trying 8 + 4321 + 00 on my keypad just gives me a long beep and then goes back to the main screen so I think my keypad is less sophisticated and doesn’t allow system programming). After running the bus scan, I get no confirmations, it just goes back to the main screen. Is that normal?

I’ve shipped the AM back and they’re sending me a new one upon receipt. I’m crossing my fingers that I’ll be able to just plug it in and go. I’ll be sure to update.

@sdozier can I paypal you some beer money for all of your help and for your programming efforts?

Yes just a flash of the screen is normal. You can confirm the device id
further down in the menus ( or delete the device out if replacing).

–sure you can buy me a beer, probably should wait till you get it working.
:slight_smile: Http://paypal.me/sdozier1

SOLVED:
Please ignore - I republished for me and now it redirected to a 500 message but code was in the address uri as instructed. On to the next steps…

Thank you for this - I have been hacking around w/ Concord232 but haven’t been able to get it to set silently to away.

When I go through your steps I am able to get to Smartthings smart app authorization but when I click authorize I receive an error message:

Authorizing the selected devices failed; please try again later or contact support@smartthings.com

Any thoughts/insights?

I think that error means you’re using graph.xx as your URL, you need to use graph-xx.xx instead. When you’re in the smart things admin, click your hub and it should redirect you to the locale URL.

The long beep means you have the fixed English keypad (like I had). You’ll need to buy the alphanumeric one, they’re on eBay (ATP-1000 I believe).

Also please note I often get failed send of message with retries, it rarely works the first time. I think that might be normal?

Ah good point automation82, yes you do need to use the alphanumeric
keypad. Also let me warn you that once you have the automation module
attached and added to the system, there has to be good communication on the
serial line.

If you disconnect the raspberry pi or stop the program for a few hours the
Concord4 system will start beeping and saying ‘bus failure’ , very
annoying. You can go back in the system menus (8 4321 01) and delete out
the automation module until you get things working.

I was looking to integrate my old concord into domoticz…has anyone looked into this or can provide assistance to get the alarm integrated as a device in domoticz?

The ATP-1000 keypad is necessary to get the Superbus 2000 Automation Module to work?

I am new to SmartThings but am very interested in using your Concord 4 alarm code. I am having issues with step 21-23 getting the code and api token. Are the directions up to date and do I need to add the URL in to the redirect uri field in the newly created device or do I leave it blank?

Thanks for any help.

-Matt

I had a lot of issues too with those steps. When I read the documentation it said to use graph with no locale. I also had to set a redirect Uri under oath in the smart app for it to return the code properly.

I am up and running and outgoing works great (except each sensor had to be triggered once to take an updated). The issue is I haven’t been able to arm the alarm from smartthings or the rest API. It just returns null but console said something about access. Clicking arm does nothing in ST.

Thanks! What did you set the redirect Uri to?

I actually have a domain so I set it to that but I think you could set it to anything as long as they match. You may want to try https://localhost then when it redirects it should be https://localhost/code=

I would not say its required. If disconnect power the concord4 panel and the connect back power to the panel after connecting the automation module, it will be discovered on boot up. If however, you need to remove the automation module from the panel, you probably need the atp-1000 keypad to do so.

Matt,
I’ve updated the steps 21-23 to fix some errors. The procedure is pretty much pulled from the documentation here: http://docs.smartthings.com/en/latest/smartapp-web-services-developers-guide/authorization.html

You can also get the API access token from the smartthings IDE. Go to https://graph.api.smartthings.com and login. Go to Smart Apps then the Concord 4 Integration Smart App. Click “Simulator” ->Set Location ->> Install . In the simulator, if you scroll the very bottom right, the access token will be displayed.

Thank you - this is good to know and something learned.

Now that my alarm and all my sensors are conned and functioning, any thoughts on how to incorporate the siren?

Thanks Scott! I’m still waiting for the replacement AM unit, but will surely update and donate once I get it set up

What do want to do with the siren ? Trigger it like a switch?