Adding Nuki Smart Lock Pro (5th gen) to SmartThings over Matter problem

Hi all!

I decided to upgrade my Nuki 4th gen lock to the 5th gen (main reason is that it is a lot faster) running in to a problem. I’m already talking to Nuki about it but maybe I can get a answer here or some might benefit in the future.
The lock: Smart Lock Pro (5e gen) - Smart slot | Nuki The Smart Lock

So the 4th gen worked just fine, also added to ST over Matter.
The new lock works but I can’t add the lock to the Icloud what apperently must be done.
I’m not using Apple Home, also when I do have the app still nothing happens there? What am I doing wrong?

I set the Nuki app up to add the device over Matter and then I get this screen:

Fine, I will add it. Next screen:

After a minute or so:
“Adding accessoire not possible. You may need to restart the accessoire before you are able to add it to your home”

And then you get send back to the app:

Before you start setup try removing lock battery and pressing set button on lock if it has one, to make sure it is in pairing mode.

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There is no battery lock (battery is integrated) and I am sure it is in pairing mode. The LED ring should (and is) fully lit.

Smart Lock Pro (5e gen) - Smart slot | Nuki The Smart Lock

is your iPhone connected to a 2.4/5 ghz wifi network? You should try 2.4 ghz only to see if it resolves the issue for you. You mention it worked previously for another lock… possible it was on the 2.4 band at that time but currently it is on the 5 ghz band and thus failing.

Good idea jkp, but sadly no luck. Same result.

This is an ongoing issue for me with the gen 4.
I got no real help from Nuki at all with it and they blame everything except their product. After a few weeks of problem solving, they reverted back to “show us proof of purchase and warranty, screen shot your issues” - which ive done 20+ times.
They also kept thinking it was a remote access issue, not a matter issue.

Their 2 solutions or thinking is to turn off all your other hubs so only use your smartthings hub. Also tether your lock to 4g. However of course then, your smartthings hub isnt on the same network.
What i did find is that a firmware update solved this for me

Have you deleted the previous lock from the matter devices in ios?
I found an older device worked but the new ios 18 was the issue.
My lock disconnects several times and takes anywhere between 3 and 30 attempts to reconnect. Its clearly an issue with Nuki
I dont mind you tagging me in when you speak to them, nice to know im not alone

That aside is the new lock quieter and faster? Worth the money?

Never knew there was a Matter page in ios! Old lock now deleted. The new one was in there, but no serial number with it so deleted that one too. Tried it again and in stead of the lock symbol I now had the orange home symbol. But… same issue. You need to restart …

With the old lock I never had any issues other then it sometimes didn’t see my phone fast enough and I had to unlock the door with the keypad.

I’m emailing them so can’t tag you there, but I will let everyone know what/if there is a solution.

Quieter? No. But a lot faster and the noise doesn’t really bother me. My main issue was standing in front of the door and waiting for it to unlock the door, with a key I would be a lot faster, now it is faster.

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Sofar no luck. Today the message as @welshbryn already said they would:

“Turn off all hubs (I only have one hub that supports Thread) and send the invoice.”

Now I got the mail that said “they want to look into it and will get back to me”.
I did get the service thingy and not he door sensor they offer with the upgrade so either way, something should be done.

I will keep you posted!

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Another update, called Apple Care NL today because the problem accurs when connecting to Icloud.

I can’t add the Nuki Pro, but also not the Aqara M3 hub. And I had a brainfart, what if I re-add the Nuki 4.0 I already had connected without any problems?
Also not!

I’m thinking something is up with the link between IOS - Matter - Icloud?

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what happens if you try to add to Apple Home (need iOS 18)?

so things to check:

  • you need to have iOS 16 or higher
  • iPhone needs to be on the same wifi network as Matter devices and ST hub
  • IPv6 needs to be enabled on your home network

When adding to Apple Home the same thing happens, with a slightly different message in the screen.

IOS is up to date
Same wifi
This site ( Test uw IPv6.) tells me no IPv6!

But my old Nuki 4th gen always has worked? Same provider (4G at home, now 5G at home), also no IPv6.

you may want to contact your provider to see if there is a way to enable IPv6 on your home network.

Unfortunally no. Odido doesn’t do IPv6 as I found out on a other forum. But still, why was I able to add the old lock if Matter needs IPv6?

Interestingly, i was told ipv6 may be the issue and to disable it!

I agree its an ios / icloud issue. However i have found that certain zigbee devices caused issues. I ended up deleting and re-adding all of them.
I also found i had issues with a wirless mesh node. Again deleted and re added and touch wood ive found that its more stable.
My lock went offline following a battery charge and i thought “oh great here we go again” but it came back online after 20 mins.

I would suggest clearing the matter locks from ios. Delete them from apple home, reset the lock completely and then try again.
Nuki seem to be pretty helpless with it all tbh and i figured it out on my own.
My lock is so painfully slow so i hope they sort this soon!

But you installed it without IPv6?

I reeeeeeeally don’t want to re-add +50 devices…
Lock is already completely deleted, no luck.

I have a few things I want to do:

  1. Disable 5Ghz and not turning it back on, on my smarthome network
  2. Adding the devices with my older ipad and not the iphone 15.
  3. Turning off my entire mesh wifi and only the main router/modem

Fingers crossed…

Yep. My ipv6 is off!?

Yes i really feel your pain
Also try remove them from apple home if they appear and then reset them.

Hopefully you get luck with older ipad.

Hopefully they fix it lol

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Already then…

  1. Done. Now only 2.4Ghz wifi for my smarthome. No more worries if it will make a difference if there is or is no 5Ghz.
  2. With Mesh wifi off, no luck. Same result.
  3. Adding with the Ipad also brought me nothing. But this could be because it is too old.

Last idea on my part is my dad’s (my old) Iphone 11, which I used to get the old Nuki lock added with Matter.

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And as if by magic. My lock has dropped off today. Been trying all day to add it back. Bloody useless

Good luck man.

Tonight I’m getting drunk and doing nothing :zany_face:

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