Adding Nest Thermostat

[Timthrill (Tim J)]

Hello,
Im new to Smart Things as I just got my hub yesterday from Best Buy. So far I have connected my Yale Door Lock and Dimmer light to the hub along with alexa and google. I’m super lazy now and tell alexa to turn off my light when i go to bed. I was wondering how can I connect my thermostat to the hub as I see something in create device online but not sure what to for device network ID. I tried searching around but didn’t find much information on this. If someone could please point me in the right direction that would be great Thanks!

[sainsworth (Scott Ainsworth)]

You might try sharing what brand and model of thermostat you have. I’m not sure anyone can help without that information.

[jkp]

installation guide can be found at the bottom of the 1st post in the following thread.

[RELEASE] NST Manager v5.0

#(The SmartApp Formerly Known as Nest Manager) We are very excited and proud of this this release. While it may not look like a giant update but this is the 'GREATEST NST Manager YET!!! PLEASE READ THE UPDATE NOTICE BELOW… Please open issues on GitHub for ANY issues you find because it’s very hard to track them using the forum. NST Manager SmartApp This is the SmartThings user-created SmartApp and Device handlers to integration Nest devices with SmartThings. The SmartApp and Device Handlers work together to provide integration to the SmartThings ecosystem using Nest’s published API. What’s New New: Name Changed to NST Manager New: Manager and Automations codebase has been split into two individual files. * There is an automated process to migrate your existing automation to this…

[yvesracine]

[RELEASE] Resilient My Next Manager & My Next Devices for your Nest® products with native UI (for faster rendering on Android/iOS) & all ST standard capabilities + high refresh rates + No complicated developer account setup!

I’m happy to announce a new alternative for ST users who have Nest products at home. This new alternative leverages the standard ST UI (for faster rendering on both Android & iOS) & all ST standard capabilities plus new features from the Nest APIs for better synergy between the 2 ecosystems (ex. setETA for geofencing and comfort & energy saving tips with the NestGetTips smartapp and voice commands). With my code, there is no need to create a Nest Developer account and set up different permissions as Nest has authorized MyNextManager app for many users. This simplifies the Nest Setup process a lot for the end users and avoid subsequent errors/exceptions in operations. The code has been designed to work with an ecosystem of smartapps acting as “micro services”. The design is NOT a big m…

[trirocketman (David Wright)]

If you use the NST Manager I hope you have more luck than me. It doesn’t work for me and I can’t find out why.

[Davey1985]

Hi

Will your dh work with the new changes? Ie the closure of works with nest that has just been announced?

[yvesracine]

See my response here:

[RELEASE] Resilient My Next Manager & My Next Devices for your Nest® products with native UI (for faster rendering on Android/iOS) & all ST standard capabilities + high refresh rates + No complicated developer account setup!

Sadly, it seems that it’s out of the question for the moment. The new Google platform doesn’t provide open APIs for controlling the Nest devices. P.S. You may want to switch to ecobee as soon as their camera and smoke alarm ( it is also in the works apparently) are released. There is no privacy BS with ecobee.

[Davey1985]

Bugger! Loads of people will be affected!

[jkp]

There is no privacy BS with ecobee.

But there are outages…
https://status.ecobee.com/history?page=1

May 2019: 12 outages (so far)
April 2019: 15 outages
March 2019: 11 outages
February 2019: 17 outages
January 2019: 14 outages

[yvesracine]

Hi.,

Those temporary outages don’t affect any schedules set at the thermostat.

Also, for automation purposes, with My Ecobee device, any failed commands can be "replayed’ in the next hour window after a ST or ecobee outage.

No other ecobee implementation is as reliable…

Refer to this thread for more details,

[RELEASE] Resilient - My Ecobee Device & ecosystem v5 - The smartest thermostat under ST with new "comfort tips" features and Unique Integration with Echo/Ask Alexa

For all ecobee users out there, Apart from the current situation where some ecobee API infos are missing due to the ecobee frequent outages (equipmentStatus/OperatingState, occupany from the ecobee’s remote sensors), My Ecobee device just works normally and can reissue your thermostat commands when the (ST/ecobee) temporary outage is over. The code has been refined over the years and proven to be reliable and resilient to most of the ST/ecobee outages in the past months. You do not need to re-login in the middle of an ecobee outage as my code is able to re-issue the auth tokens during or after the ecobee/ST outage. Please subscribe to the ecobee status page in order to get notifications about upcoling scheduled maintenance or current ecobee issues (if any). status.ecobee.com Regards. …

P.S. I know the Nest & ecobee APIs by heart, and I can tell you that the ecobee APIs are far superior and can achieve way more use cases (as indicated at the top of my thread).

And, ecobee is working on a new ecobee Cam and smoke alarm devices (to be released soon)…

Nest APIs are gone for good, and the new Google platform doesn’t seem for the moment to allow APIs access;for automation users, the ecobee choice is clear now.

Regards.

[yvesracine]

BTW, the Nest servers have had a lot of issues in the past months too, but they don’t update their status page accordingly…I know first hand about it, and you know it as well.

Ecobee is a bit more transparent, even if it hurts their image…

[Davey1985]

Thank you for all the info. I think im going to have to sit tight for now with the nest and see what happens. Not long had it and don’t want to have to pay out again… the wife wouldn’t be pleased!

[Nezmo]

Those temporary outages don’t affect any schedules set at the thermostat.

Same for Nest. Outages in the cloud do not affect local operation/schedules.

[JD_Stolz]

With Nest moving away from integrations, is this also the end of Nest My Next Manager?

[yvesracine]

I’m afraid so…

[JD_Stolz]

Verysorry to hear that, what a disappointment!

[yvesracine]

ecobee4 smart thermostat w/ extra sensors for $250, electric pressure...

[Luigi_Colancecco]

Which link do I click on for nest thermostats and cameras?

[Wade_Johnston]

You don’t click on any link. It is not currently possible to connect Nest products to SmartThings, ever since Google discontinued the Works With Nest program a few weeks ago.

[mike240se (mike)]

You don’t click on any link. It is not currently possible to connect Nest products to SmartThings, ever since Google discontinued the Works With Nest program a few weeks ago.

so basically if you are on the old nest plan you can continue using NST manager, etc until they shut down Works with Nest completely, correct? Have they given a date on that?

I was just looking into converting my account to a google account so i can take advantage of the new plan as i have multiple cameras and it will save me a lot of money. then i did a little research b efore doing it luckily and found out it breaks work with nest and that is how i ended up here to figure out if it would affect smartthings integration.

i am really upset since i just bought a nest thermostat i was going to replace my ecobee with just so i could integrate with the smoke detectors and the new sensors for better prescence and away detection, etc. so basically no point of installing that now!