After a rather disastrous weekend with SmartThings, I wanted to share my experience with Z-Wave Secure Join. I’m posting this here because after a discussion with support that was completely fruitless I’ve begun to believe that the ST staff doesn’t believe there’s a problem with their z-wave routine…

Does this sound familiar to you? [image] Need to reset Aeon outlet almost daily Devices & Integrations @duncan are there any issues with Aeon secure devices that you know of? This incident seems awful similar to the issue I had with my Aeon motion sensors. @tobycth3 , b…

No, I haven’t seen this on my Aeon outlets, so far they seem to be working fine at the moment. I had one that would not report status or voltage, and I could not control through the app manually but worked just fine as part of a Smart Lighting routine. About a month ago I tore down my entire ST and…

You may have rebuilt before it broke?! I have sensors that work just fine, but they were joined a long time ago. I have thought to kill one of them and attempt to join them again, now, just to prove my point, but I don’t feel that adventurous if they work. I will continue to monitor. But from what I…

It’s certainly possible. My original setup ran from September until July so I would have thought I’d see it but perhaps not. Yes it was a fun process running around rejoining everything, especially when you’d have a device fail and the hub would get stupid, so I would start all over from the beginni…

[image] Dela-Rick: No, I haven’t seen this on my Aeon outlets, so far they seem to be working fine at the moment. Just for clarification on the link @SBDOBRESCU posted, my Aeon outlets would work fine, it was just any devices ‘down stream’ of them that would randomly fail, including my Schlag…

Ever since the 8/15 update, I’ve been having all kinds of problems. First it was a bunch of Zigbee devices and now my Z-wave devices are acting up. I have a Home Energy Monitor (HEM) that suddenly stopped reporting. I went through the usual process of resetting and repairing and it would start worki…

This worked for me. How to fix a Schlage lock that will not pair. The lock will pair if to far away from the HUB, but not work. It will say that there is a security violation. The following procedure must be done exactly to work. It took me more that a few hours to find what worked. The reset lock …

I appreciate the point of view, but there should be little difference with distance at that scale, particularly when it comes to radio wave propagation. I measured, I was actually closer to 5ft away, but if the difference between 1ft and 5ft apart with direct line-of-sight free of obstructions then …

The zwave specification allows for what is called “whisper distance” for the initial exchange of the encryption key with a security device. It’s up to each manufacturer to implement this for their specific devices, but I think for almost all of them 5 feet would be treated very differently than 2 …

This is a good point, and very well could be a problem. I’ve seen insecure joins with other devices fail at five feet or less, so I’m not quite ready to chalk it up to a design feature. Still doesn’t explain why a properly joined device disappeared the next morning.

Z-Wave Secure Join Failures and Other Misadventures

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SBDOBRESCU (Bobby) August 23, 2016, 6:09pm 2

Does this sound familiar to you?

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