Z-Wave receptacles


(James R. Skinner) #1

I have a few questions regarding in-wall Z-Wave receptacles.

  1. There there any non-decora versions available?
  2. Are their any with both plugs controllable seperately?
  3. Do any support Z-Wave Plus
  4. Do any support instant status?

Thanks.


Is there an outlet with both receptacles controlled?
#2
  1. I don’t believe so.
  2. Not found one yet.
  3. I’ve only seen plug-in types so far.
  4. I believe this one does - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0039UW92A/ref=twister_B01JJKURQS?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

#3

“Decora” is a trademark of the Leviton company. For outlets, it refers to a rectangular style.

At present, all of the certified Z wave outlets are of a similar rectangle design. However, if you have room in the switchbox you could install an in wall micro relay behind any outlet that you like. You need to make sure that the relay supports at least 15 A in order to meet code in most places.

Many of the in wall micros are designed to go behind light switches and only handle 10 A. But Linear/GoControl does make a Z wave relay which can handle a higher load. Or smartenIT makes a similar zigbee version which is a little smaller. but the Linear can only be wired to one of the receptacles. The other would remain Nonnetworked. These are typically about 2 in.², but vary in depth.

http://smartenit.com/product/zbmlc15/

There are some dual zwave relays, but they are all designed for light switches, and can’t carry the required load for an outlet.

@jhamstead pointed out in another thread that the smartenit zigbee version is also available in a dual version which can support 15 A on each end point. But again, not Zwave. Also, it costs about $90. :disappointed_relieved: But it does exist and might fit some use cases.

http://smartenit.com/product/zblc15/

.2. Are their any with both plugs controllable separately?

Not at present. Due to physical size, this was not practical with the older generations of Z wave. Z wave plus, the current generation, is somewhat smaller, and we may hope to see some in a year or so. Right now there is one plug in pocket socket from showhome which allows for independent control of two different receptacles, but it’s not available as a wired model.

https://inovelli.com/smart-home-products/2-channel-smart-plug/

If this is a very important feature to you, I would just wait another six months or so and see what’s announced for the fall. I do think we will see this form factor in zwave plus devices, it’s just not on the market yet.

.3. Do any support Z-Wave Plus

These have just started to come on the market in the last few months. There are several brands that have gotten certified, although I don’t think any have yet been made available to purchase. GE, showhome, and Enerwave all have completed certifications, and more are expected to soon.

.4. Do any support instant status?

“Instant status” in a Z wave context usually refers to two patents held by Lutron which control whether or not a networked dimmer switch can report its status immediately to the controlling hub if the device is physically manipulated at the wall. It doesn’t apply to non-dimming devices at all, nor does it apply to outlets. So all in wall receptacles should have the equivalent of “instant status” in that they should report to the hub immediately if the physical button on the outlet is pressed.

If you had some other meaning in mind, let us know.

Also, all certified Z wave devices have official conformance statements filed on the Z wave alliance website, so in the future, you can probably answer most of these questions for yourself by checking there. :sunglasses: Just be aware that devices are certified before they’re actually released for sale, and there can sometimes be a delay of as much as a year. But at least you’ll know that if you don’t see anything listed for a particular feature , there probably isn’t one, although there may be a zigbee or Wi-Fi version that would work.

http://products.z-wavealliance.org


(James R. Skinner) #4

Thanks JDRoberts for your extremely thorough response (as usual). Sounds like I should wait for few months to see what the next round of products looks like.


(Gene Clark) #5

Dude you’re the man when it comes to this stuff. Talk about detail oriented! Thanks!


#6

To quote one of my favorite T-shirts:

It’s not OCD: I’m an engineer. :wink: