UPDATE: Recent SmartThings User Experience & Platform Performance

Ya my before and after sunrise events have been solid.

Just curious, if you have a v1 Hue bridge,why would you get a v2 unless you use iOS or HomeKit? I also have a v1 and haven’t seen a good reason to ā€œupgradeā€.

BTW, the new Hue app v2 is working on my v1 bridge.

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The only reasons that come to mind are 1) support for the devices that I have, and 2) access to the new Hue App. Can you think of any others?

You’ve confirmed that the new app is working with the v1 Hue hub, so that takes care of #2. Thanks.

With respect to #1, so far all I’ve heard about device support is that the GE Link and OSRAM devices work. Not sure about the Cree bulbs or the Commercial Electric recessed units, yet. Apparently (according to somebody in a previous post), I need to RTFM. :wink:

Local (in the hub rather than the cloud) control of lighting, for one.

Are you talking about the ST v2 hub? Or the new hue?

Oops…yeah, I as thinking ST. It looks like I should have followed the chain backwards for a couple more posts before responding myself.

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If your devices won’t work with the v1 Hue bridge, I really doubt they will work with the v2. Since you already have the v1, try to pair them. Nothing to lose :wink:

Like @SBDOBRESCU pointed out, people have had success pairing other ZLL protocol light brands. I only have experience with GE Links and Hue bulbs.

Where have you seen this reported? I haven’t tried myself. I Have seen reports of the EU version of the Lightify bulbs connect (they are running on ZLL) AFAIK the US version of lightify runs on ZHA and will not connect to either Hue hub v1 or 2. I have both hue hubs and some lightify(US) products I will try to remember to attempt pairing this weekend for clarity.

See above…

Is the version you added to Hue US or UK?

Is the US version I was trying to add yesterday, but was unsuccessful because of ST issues. The bulb itself (US version is compatible with both ZLL and ZHA). There are reports of successful connection to the HUE hub, however, there are also many reports that Osram bulbs stopped turning off when connected to Hue. Also, I’ve read that Osram pushed an update recently, but to install that you would need an Osram bridge, which I don’t have and not in a hurry to get one just because I only have one bulb… I’ll try again soon, or wait for you to see if successful or not :slight_smile:

Sorry, guys, I had a bit of brain fade there. I meant Cree, not OSRAM. My understanding from the search that I’ve done so far is that OSRAM bulbs in the US with the Zigbee 3.0 firmware (the most recent versions) DO NOT work with the Hue hub.

The 3.0 is what makes it compatible with Hue, actually. Because it unifies ZHA and ZLL…But from what I’ve read, a firmware upgrade is needed on the Osram side

Yes, in theory. I’ve read through several threads that seem to indicate that, while the bulbs with that firmware appear to pair with the Hue hub (they flash), they never show up in the App. Emails that people have cut/pasted from OSRAM just point the finger at Philips. So, apparently the OSRAM firmware and the Hue hub don’t play together well. At this time, anyway.

I’ll probably try it over the weekend, anyway. At this point I consider myself a glutton for punishment. Sorta like Daffy (Shoot me now!) Duck.:cry:

We must be reading the same thread on Hue community :slight_smile:

…where Osram refuses to switch US standard for EU because:

"Thank you for your interest in LIGHTIFY. Over the past year you may have seen reference on the internet to LIGHTIFY customer service having the ability to change firmware versions for certain US products so that they can work on other ZigBee based ecosystems that might not support them. However what you may or may not know, is that the ZigBee Alliance has now released a new standard called ZigBee 3.0 which combines functionality from the two previous lighting standards, ZigBee Light Link (ZLL) and ZigBee Home Automation (ZHA).

What this means for you, is that your favorite ecosystems will now be able to work with all of the LIGHTIFY lighting products regardless of if they currently are manufactured with ZLL or ZHA. Of course you will need to reconfirm this with your ecosystem of choice, since the interoperability falls under their responsibility."

We are strong supporters of open and interoperable systems, therefore we have decided to strategically move forward in support of ZigBee 3.0 and no longer perform this custom firmware upgrade. By doing this, we hope to foster and promote our vision of true open and interoperable systems.

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I read that as OSRAM refusing to provide the EU ZLL firmware for US customers that wanted to pair with the Hue hub and simultaneously not taking any responsibility for the fact that their new firmware (unlike the previous EU version) doesn’t actually work. But, yeah, same thread. :slight_smile:

Are you talking about the Hue hub/bridge, or ST? If the Hue, do I gather from your comment that the v2 Hue hub does local processing, while the v1 Hue hub does not? Curious, because that is not something I’ve read before. I thought the v2 Hue hub was mostly (solely?) about HomeKit support.

It looks like you made the same mistake I did, only in reverse.

Sounds great but not able to work this out as my hue bridge does not seem to advertise a refresh capability. Would be great if you could help provide some detail on how you’ve achieved this? :slight_smile:

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Run the custom command on any hue bulb that is attached to your hub. It doesn’t have to be all of them. When one refreshes the hue bridge well refresh all of them.

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