The End of Groovy Has Arrived

Agreed! Just not by developer advocates, who are already busy enough helping developers get their stuff migrated.

Yes, a GE/Jasco dual outlet (my only Z-Wave device at present) was migrated recently

T minus 11 days. 73 devices on edge with 50+ to go. We’ve had almost 90 days and we’re down to the last 10. Unbelievable. If devices don’t get migrated and they simply stop working after Dec 31, I’m done with SmartThings.

Q1 of 2023

Ā· Complete 1st Party DTH migrations

Ā· Shutdown Graph IDE

@jkp ao does that mean they extended the 12/31 deadline?

according to the first post in this thread - custom DTH and smartapp removal should be completed by 12/31

Ok @jkp thanks. So stay tuned i guess.

So we’re all stressing over the holiday deadline for nothing!

Does the forum software not notify when a post is updated on a thread you’re tracking?

i don’t believe it notifies when a post is updated

I would just point out that jk has been wildly wrong in the past, specifically regarding Smart Lighting and webCoRE, so be careful which advice you plan by. I take my cue from official SmartThings announcements.

Alpee is correct… I am just showing what is pointed out in the first post of this thread so dates are subject to change. As was the SL and webcore info that was given in the past. Glad Alpo catches all this stuff for us.

I don’t track what individuals mention as we’re all in the same situation, doing our best with limited information.

But what he pointed out was an updated post from SmartThings staff, it carries some weight.

Since the forum doesn’t flag updates to existing posts the way it does new posts, I never saw that info about migration extending into next quarter.

With the exception of my virtuals and pocket sockets I believe I’ve had at least one of each brand and model of device I own automatically migrated.

As regards Smart Lighting, SmartThings staff told us for months that it would go away. Then they sprang the new version on us. All the automations I had in Smart Lighting were successfully migrated to the new version. Like others, I find it less useful now that it’s not the main way to have automations run locally on the hub. I’m recreating most uses of it into Routines leaving only mirror/sync items.

I recreated my Smartlighting automations as Routines using Virtual Switches to maintain precondition state previously handled by the Smartapp. The Edge drivers for my Z-wave plugs and switches expose association groups eliminating the need for Smartlighting to do the mirror/sync. Now my automations and mirroring that were happening in the cloud are being handled locally.

I have looked at associations. I have a mix of Z-wave and ZigBee switches and dimmers. Since associations is purely a Z-wave feature it doesn’t work in all cases where I want to synchronize devices.

Mirror/sync was local in the old Smart Lighting and remains so in the new Smart lighting.

Routines (not Smart lighting) that trigger a scene seem to require the cloud.

As the ā€œEnd of Groovyā€ nears, there’s good news for webCoRE users

and then there’s this post from a webCoRE Minion…

If you aren’t a Hubitat user I wouldn’t get your hopes up too high…
But i’ll be interested to see what the ā€œbig newsā€ is.

Starting in September I have manually migrated approaching 50% of my devices.
I started with Z-Wave thermostats that used custom groovy handlers; I developed edge handlers myself.
I then moved on to devices that were cloud based; smoke detectors, Smartthings V2 sockets, Ikea sockets, Ikea motion detectors, Ikea buttons and dimmers.
What I have remaining are mostly Ikea GU10 downlighter bulbs. I was holding off for automated migration of bulbs because of the difficulty of resettng and repairing downlighter bulbs.
I did try to manually migrate other Ikea, Hue, and Sengled bulbs with varying results.
The Sengled and single colour Ikea bulbs migrated to Edge after resetting and repairing but the Hue and colour temperature Ikea bulbs stubbornly stayed with (local) groovy handlers.
None of these bulbs are really critical to me, so I will be sticking with SmartThings even if I have to write some more edge handlers.
Just my thoughts.

Yep, very nice work. :sunglasses:

There’s already an author thread in this forum about the project:

[Endpoint SmartApp] HubiThings Replica

Any Update on when these fingerprints will be added? We are 9 days away from the death of Groovy DTH

Maybe it’s just me, but I feel like this is the stage we’re at. Only we’re the people inside the palace. :thinking: