Interesting topic! 
It sounds like you are using the classic V2 app. The new V3 app does not have routines and the scenes have a different set of features than the ones in the classic app. The “custom automation creator,“ the new rules engine, also has a number of new features and is somewhat easier to use than the V2 version. You can also group lights for some purposes in the V3 app, although not much yet. (For example, you can’t use the V3 light groups in scenes yet.)
I just mention all this because since you said you don’t want to code, which I assume also means not writing pistons for webcore, you might want to take a look at the V3 app as the official rules engine is quite a bit more advanced than the one in classic.