Sunrise/sunset setting now only has max 60 minutes, used to let you choose HOURS

[mrsmartypants]

i used to be able to schedule lights to turn on/off HOURS before or after sunset. now i see this option is no longer available… you can only choose MINUTES before or after sunrise/sunset.

PLEASE BRING BACK THE OPTION FOR HOURS. only being able to do it 60 minutes max time isn’t acceptable! this new app really is missing a LOT!

[GSzabados (Gabor Szabados)]

The Smart Lighting SmartApp still allows you to set it to more than 60 minutes, but to enter negative values, you have to copy a - sign first to the clipboard to be able to enter it.

@Brad_ST, the OPs comment is fair, that this limitation is there.
My comment above with the missing - sign from the keypad is must be a joke. (I believe this issue was reported more than a half year ago, at least.)

Just a screenshot for reference…

Can you poke those internal bug reports a bit for us?

[mrsmartypants]

ALSO, once you migrate to the new app, you can’t edit Automations that were imported – you get a communication error, and it wont let you change them! only way to get them to change is by deleting them and adding it back as a new automation.

[jlv]

@GSzabados

My comment above with the missing - sign from the keypad is must be a joke. (I believe this issue was reported more than a half year ago, at least.)

[Brad_ST (Brad)]

@mrsmartypants

ALSO, once you migrate to the new app, you can’t edit Automations that were imported – you get a communication error, and it wont let you change them! only way to get them to change is by deleting them and adding it back as a new automation.

I filed a bug report about this and it’s being investigated.

@GSzabados

Can you poke those internal bug reports a bit for us?

[mrsmartypants]

hey brad, any routines that had sunset/sunrise set to over 1 hour wouldn’t import to the new app as well. this seems to be a bug … as there is no option to select “hours” for sunrise/sunset, only up to 60 minutes. i had lights set to turn on 2 hours before sunset and can no longer choose this. can you please submit a bug report about this as well?

also why won’t momentary button tiles work in the new app? some lights i had that only support them now won’t work. says cannot connect to device for them now.

thanks!

[Brad_ST (Brad)]

I understand you had numerous Routines with offsets greater than 60 minutes. The new app only supports offsets up to 60 minutes by design. I passed along your feedback and frustration but don’t have any insight into that decision.

I assume you’re referring to this device: momentary-button-tile.groovy. If so, the metadata needs to be updated.

This might serve your needs:

Need developer input: Capability "Momentary" is needed in the new API!

That screenshot comes from a virtual device using this: It is just a simple button that generates ‘pushed’ events (the ‘down_6x’ status is just used to initialise the button status without fearing setting off an automation). The Momentary capability calls the ‘push()’ method which sends the button pushed event. I mostly use it as a momentary button with ActionTiles but the Momentary action works fine in the new app too. *It doesn’t work in the Classic app because I deliberately left the ‘tiles()’ block out. *

[jlv]

@Brad_ST

The new app only supports offsets up to 60 minutes by design. I passed along your feedback and frustration but don’t have any insight into that decision.

Is this a UI design flaw? Is this an implementation flaw? Is this a backend design flaw? Curious software engineers want to know.