I wish someone would edit the title on this thread.
I have never liked the wording with the current one 
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The last paragraph seems to contradict the European Market earlier statementā¦
Our partnership builds upon Aeotecās world-class experience and commitment to quality in manufacturing smart home devices. We are pleased to collaborate with a company that customers trust and excited to continue bringing SmartThings into every home around the world.
Must say - I am not feeling the āZigbee Loveā from Aeotecā¦ 
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I actually see it the other way around: Iād guess this is Aeotecās path to adding Zigbee to their line. It wouldnāt surprise me if they have desire, just not experience.
Time will tellā¦
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Said certification doesnāt seem to be listed any more. Perhaps they decided to start off with a cock up to make us feel at home.
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I really hope this is the case. I have 98% Zigbee in my house. I prefer it and am too invested to switch now. Iād like to see a brand like this offer both solutions.
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I came to smartthings in the first place because I wanted to combine zigbee sensors with Z wave fixed position devices like door locks and wall switches. Zwave doesnāt have to worry about WiFi interference, but zigbee still has better power management and a higher number of hops, which can help with getting signal around tricky obstacles. 
(I actually very recently was finally able to add zigbee contact sensors to my HomeKit set up via Aqara, which made me very happy.)
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Aeotec make very expensive sensors and only z wave.
The smartthings motion sensor, button and multi sensors were the best sensors I found for those jobs and also at a reasonable price.
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Lotta familiar faces there. With a new coat of paintā¦
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and some unreleased faces
And a hefty price tagā¦
Being in the US, prices in Euros donāt immediately register with me.
Whatās the price premium compared to past Samsung versions?
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The Aeotec hub is 20% over the current cost of a SmartThings branded V3 hub on Amazon UK or at Argos (Amazon and Argos price is Ā£80 which is about $105).
Difficult to say with the other devices as availability has always been erratic with the prices all over the place and generally nowhere near as cheap as US prices. However ā¦
Converted to UKP, the Aeotec button is about Ā£21 which compares favourably to Ā£40 for the ST button from Currys (once THE source of Smartthings in the UK) and about Ā£35 on Amazon UK from third parties.
The Aeotec Motion and Multipurpose Sensors are about Ā£30, which is 20% up on the ST brands in Argos where they are Ā£25.
Obviously I am comparing UK prices with a German online shop.
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Actually this makes me think, who was actually producing the Hub before. Was it from the beginning Aeotec?
Can you explain this? What do you mean? Which camera integrates well with ST?
But where you can buy them? 
If/when Aeotec does actually upgrade the 2018-era V3 hub, Iād love to see the new Z-Wave Long Range spec included, too.
Z-Waveās branding is slowly morphing into USB: the x00-series chips, Z-Wave Plus, Z-Wave Plus V2, Z-Wave Long Range, etc. Ideally, theyāll wrap up LR + 700 into a ā800ā or a ā900ā chip soon.
For now, Long Range is being included in Z-Wave Plus V2, even though previous Z-Wave Plus V2 devices wonāt have it.
āLRā (long range) Is different because it extends the number of allowed device IDs so that you can have thousands on one network. They said this is specifically because of the dramatic increase in sensors that many smart homes now have. But in order to make that work, even though they say itās backwards compatible, itās going to be tricky so that the addresses are recognizable for the routing.
Vesternet has a good explanation of the various currently available device terms:
And they are still using marketing terms as well as engineering terms.
So āZ wave plusā is the same as āseries 500ā and āZ wave plus V2ā is the same as āseries 700.ā
LR is just a specification for now and will be indeed part of Z wave plus V2.
The new Z-Wave-LR specification will be managed and certified under the Z-Wave Plus V2 certification program. This currently requires the inclusion of the S2 security framework as well as SmartStart, a Z-Wave technology that enables simple setup and installation of Z-Wave devices by scanning a QR code.
Z wave alliance has said that there are currently three manufacturers in the alpha phase of testing LR, but they havenāt been named yet.
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Sorry everyone, I had to change the title of this post because the old one was driving me crazy. Feel free to edit it to something better if you want
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