This explains why SmartThings Find isn’t on my Samsung S8+ (Android 9) yet. It’s only available on Android 10 devices at this time and some specific Verizon devices apparently. Limited to the U.S. and Korea. And, it won’t work with all Samsung SmartWatches either, like my Gear S3 which will probably never see anymore Tizen updates (long live MST).
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Ok, I’m trying out the new linked places feature. So, I created an Automation for when I’m not at the linked place location. I’m currently not at the linked place location when I created the Automation, and the Automation did not fire immediately after I created it which is nice. So I’m hoping this is by design because I only want the linked place Automation to run only when I’ve been at the linked place location and then left it.
UPDATE: It’s not how it worked today, oh well. The moment I left my home location which triggered my Armed Away Automations, and I was not even near or in the linked location either, the Automation for when I’ve left the linked location ran even though I had not entered and left the linked location at all. So, I’ve now resorted to using a virtual switch in combination with the linked location to make it work right for me. That way it can’t run the Automation for when I’ve left the linked location unless the virtual switch is ‘On’ as I created another Automation that turns on the virtual switch when I’m in the linked location. It would be great if the Simulated Presence Sensor DH worked natively in the new SmartThings app since I tried changing the virtual switch to that DH so it would make more sense, but when I tried it didn’t work so I’m just using a virtual switch.
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Yeah,saw that too this morning. Glad they’re prioritizing and implementing features that don’t mean squat while everything else goes to $hit… Well done ST.
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Just browsing through this, not sure if it has been mentioned yet but linked places cant be used unless you are using a Galaxy device.
You can program locations, but to implement in automations the linked location is greyed out, specifying you need a galaxy device to utilize it.
Well, I updated to 1.7.51.42. Now the app says “No network connection” for everything. Everything else on my phone continues to work just fine, as does all the rest of my infrastructure (sitting here on my home WiFi backed by a 1Gbps FiOS). I was just using my phone for a zoom meeting a few minutes ago. Only the “SmartThings” app says “No network connection”. I needed to toggle airplane mode on and off to clear it up.
Once I did that, I see that my Samsung S8 has the bug where I can’t turn on “Get your location from this phone”, so I’ve lost my presence sensor.
Also, I can’t find “Samsung Find” on my phone (even though it’s listed as a new feature); but I guess that’s because it’s Android 9.0.
On the plus side, I see the new app no longer hangs for 3-5 seconds while updating SmartThings Home Monitor.
Overall, it’s a really good thing I still use the Classic app for my daily needs.
Weather is also in automations now as a condition as well.
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Thanks for the mention. We’re on it and I’m personally monitoring the conversation about a fix.
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Thanks @blake.arnold, this bug is really impactful so I appreciate the followup.
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Please let us change the weather display up top to celsius regardless of geolocation or have it follow our preferences.
Furthermore although it claims to support them buds live do not appear in smartthings find. I’ve submitted a support ticket already.
my husband and i were both able to get our OnePlus phones running Android 10 to get the ST location setting turned back on…first try turning off your WIFI and then toggle the “get your location from this phone” in the new ST app (under settings). IF THIS DOES NOT WORK, delete the new ST app (and Classic ST app if you still have it), reboot your phone, reload just the new ST app, do not yet log in, turn off your WIFI connection and use cellular only, log in to the new ST app, go to settings and toggle the location switch on. Also ensure your location is set to “always on” and battery optimization is set to “do not optimize” for the new ST app (within your Android settings). Let us know if it works for you. We spent hours trying to fix. Good luck!
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If you uninstall the new app, you lose all the ‘favorite’ customizations on your rooms, as well as the order of the rooms. IMHO that’s not worth it.
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try toggling location back on without uninstalling the app first but with WIFI turned off
With just WiFi turned off my devices goes on LTE, so it’s still on the network and I get the same “Try again later” toast notification on Android. The same goes with airplane mode (no network access).
This is FUBAR. I’ve had (mostly) working (usually reliable) presence in the SmartThings Classic app for 5 years. But because they’ve said they’re turning it off, I moved the presence to the “new app” and in just days it’s broken.
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I wish, and think it is ridiculous that they don’t store those preferences in the cloud with your account. Just another item on the “things the legacy app did” pile.
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Linked location drama update.
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My update came through this morning.
SmartThings Find is available in the UK. The ‘US and Korea’ limitation might perhaps be for the offline detection, though I was able to enable it. I don’t remember seeing that before, but otherwise it seems to be pretty much ‘Find My Mobile’. I’m not sure why that is inside SmartThings unless more is to come.
SmartThings Find only locates my mobile. It claims Find My Mobile is switched off for the two other mobiles it shows. It isn’t, they belong to other family members and they are installed in guardian mode. Find My Mobile knows exactly where they are when asked. The message is misleading.
I wish someone would sort out capitalisation in the app. It is bad enough having units in device settings where the first character is folded to upper case, mangling the SI units, but folding linked place names to lower case? Why? That involves taking a correct place name and deliberately applying ignorance to it.
Mobile Presence is now a new integration rather than a Groovy DTH, or at least it is with linked places in use. The main component of the device has Presence Sensor and Occupancy Sensor capabilities. Each ‘linked place’ corresponds with a component which just has the Presence Sensor capability.
I am not seeing any display of weather, but it is available in automations. Without knowing where and when the observations were taken that is totally worthless. For example in the UK the Met Office observations are taken hourly and the nearest observation point is six miles away and about 480 feet higher.
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The default order of the rooms does seem to have an element of sorting underpinning it. Unfortunately the sorting is reverse alphabetical order.
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If you go into the Weather tile and select settings you can set a Postcode or an individual PWS. The update rate appears to be about every 15 minutes.
That sounds like a description of the SmartWeather Station Tile. Is there any reason to suppose there is any connection between that and the weather being used in automations in the app? Last time I heard the tile used a TWC feed, yet the app is branded with The Weather Channel which is a different company.
Is it even known if the weather used in the automation is your weather in your ST Location or the weather in your mobile location?
Update: It seems The Weather Channel on TV licence the brand from IBM/The Weather Company who use it for other purposes so I was misinformed. The annoying thing is I knew that once.