The 200 limit is now here for this version! I have ~250 devices, and while I have no plans to add more, if I need to replace a failed device, I canât with this version.
I use iOS though and recently, as I noted in the other thread about the 200 limit, trying too add more via an iPad I was getting a message saying I cannot add more than 300. I did not (and still do not) have a problem adding more via an iPhone. With the iPad issue I just checked again and I am no longer getting the message about a 300 limit.
Iâve checked on an iPad and iPhone and no issues with 300+ devices on either. On a Galaxy Tab with 200+ no issues adding devices. But at 300+ Iâm getting a warning.
Sounds like at least on the EU versions 300 is the Android limit. But the iOS app isnât updated yet. So difficult to tell.
I posted in another thread, but this app and limits is driving me crazy.
I forced stopped the app and cleared cache, and now I have no problems adding or readding more devices, but an hour ago I could not add back in a Zigbee switch I had removed earlier in the day because of the 200 device limit message, and definitely not the 300 like you had.
Just a note of caution regarding rooms⌠I added >20 rooms via the web sometime ago and re-located my devices accordingly. All was well in the (Android) app which showed all rooms and allowed population of the new onesâŚ
Then, over a period of a few hours, EVERY device - moved or not - slowly lost room assignment and was placed in the holding âno room assignedâ room. I was left with 30 empty rooms, 10 of which were then absented from the (Android) app.
I must emphasise this was a while ago but was in the then new online IDE. Things may be more tolerant now and maybe I was just unlucky but I will not be doing it again in a hurryâŚ
When you are viewing a location you arenât the owner of, the top left icon now gives a neat list of devices shared with you rather than taking you directly to the âSelect devices to useâ page. Although the new page doesnât seem particularly useful (the list isnât clickable), it is at least more in keeping with the purpose of the icon: owners get to share; invited members get to see what has been shared with them.
The humidity summary tile now gives the min-max humidity range rather than an average, but uses a tilde where an en-dash is normally used in English. Itâs not that it isnât obvious what it means, it is just more of an east Asian convention and it looks really ugly.
Unlike @fido, I am not currently seeing a range for temperature, I am seeing an average to two decimal places with trailing zeroes removed. As all the device tiles have a single decimal place this looks a little odd.
At least for me, the settings page for the Lights summary tile now shows the same devices as the status page. OK most of my lights still arenât available but at least I have some control over the few that are.
As @fido noted, the options menu on the device details pages now includes a dangerously placed âRemove deviceâ, even for hubs. This is an addition to the option available by long-pressing device tiles on the dashboard. Iâd like to think that wonât last long.
STHM now has a âDevices linked to security modeâ page. It has long been the (undocumented) case that when the security mode was changed in STHM any device with the securitySystem capability would have the appropriate arming command called so it could be set to match (and it mostly worked but not 100%). The blurb now sort of acknowledges this (it doesnât mention the capability) but seems to suggest that it should now work the other way too. I havenât seen any evidence that it does.
The update notice draws attention to the following:
You can apparently scan multiple devices at once when onboarding. They do seem awfully keen on scanning codes. I donât have a single device that can be scanned.
There is apparently a lock screen widget for the location status. I do have a Galaxy that supports lock screen widgets but SmartThings is not one of them.
Apparently Away, Home, Good Morning and Good Night manually run routines are now included when you create a new Location. I tried this and yes they are, but note that âmanually runâ is doing some heavy lifting there.
STHM has an option, already noted by @fido, for notifying about or turning off supported cooking appliances when arming into the away mode. It seems it supports ovens, stoves (excluding cooktops) and microwaves. Not having any smart cooking appliances I donât know why cooktops arenât included.
I donât find it that strange. The Location Mode is largely a relic of the legacy platform and it was only its use in the legacy Routines that gave the default Home, Away, Night values any accepted meaning. It is a very odd thing as although it is used as if it is a single enumerated variable, the values it can take are actually UUIDs for API objects, each of which has a read-only name and a read-write label, and values can be created, deleted, and relabelled at will. It has always struck me as rather over-engineered. It does however continue to be useful and Iâll keep using it until I can create a global variable to replace it.
Using the Security Mode, aka the STHM status, makes more sense as the three values are fixed and well-defined.
Implementing the automation inside STHM also makes sense to me as that is what it is there for. I am glad to see that STHM has been getting a little more attention of late, although it needs a lot more. As well as this, a while back STHM also got the ability to self-arm into Armed (away) mode and self-disarm based on mobile presence devices. OK thatâs pretty useless for many of us but the basic idea of STHM âowningâ the arming/disarming automations is at least there.
Seeing this reminded me of the new option to change members to not be full admins. Was going through doing that and after updating my 2 kids to be control only. . . it just booted my wife out of being a member without any interaction from me. Ugh.
I get it by using the settings cog in Home Monitor to bring up the âSet up Home Monitorâ page and then clicking on âSecurityâ. It appears between âSet responseâ and âUseful featuresâ.
However I do have a virtual device installed that has the securitySystem capability so maybe it only appears when it has something to show.
For the temperature range (humidity shows this range as well) it seems to show a range if the difference is more than at least 6.5°F; as this is what I have right at this moment of writing this. I donât know the humidity range, as my humidity difference is over 25% right now. Iâm guessing if the range differs at least 5 units it will show this range, but if lower than 5 units it will show the average of all devices that are capable of showing these values.
Next, I also donât have the widget available for the lock screen either even though I have all Samsung Galaxy devices and they are all one One UI 5.1 or 5.1.1 with the latest security patch.
Finally, the new manual routines can be deleted if not in use, but you canât get the templates back if you do want to use them later without having to add a new home and moving all things over or creating the routine yourself from scratch. Due to this if you setup and save one of the routines you canât just remove the automations that were created during setup without fully losing the routine. I think if they want to keep this feature give us a way to get the templates back. Possible add these templates to the âDiscoveryâ portion of the Routines Tab.
I canât speak as to the other issues (device limit or security) as I havenât come close to the limit or have any security devices within SmartThings. I also do agree though that the new hub removal is a little too easy to accidentally hit and lose everything you took ages to setup.