Smart Switch or Smart Button - What to Use?

Hello all, im trying to figure out whats the best use case for a specific scenario, hope someone can help me.
I have a wall switch next to my bed and want to use that switch to control some lights (not just the one that is hardwired on that switch) - some in that room, some not.
I have that light with a fibaro zwave relay and will install relays on the lights i want to control.
So first question is, do i need a smartswitch or do i need a smartbutton has a replacement for the regular wall switch.
Second question is can someone recomend a wall switch or a smartbutton looking like a wall switch that integrates with smartthings, depending on the best solution for my case.
And has the fibaro are a little expensive i was trying to this with other relays, any recomendations on that has well?
Thanks in advance

As a cheaper alternative, you can purchase Zigbee lights and a button and use that button to control these lights.

I would advice smart switch only if the lights are dumb.

Sounds like a useful project! :sunglasses:

We need to ask a couple of questions first.

  1. what country are you in? The device selection does vary.

  2. what model SmartThings/Aeotec hub do you have?

  3. does the existing box behind the dumb switch have a neutral wire in it? If it does, that increases the number of candidate devices, but it’s OK if it doesn’t.

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Hello i will pass on the smartbulbs i only work with relays because i like to make lights smart but keeping the existing wall switch (this beeing the only exception changing wall switch)

My country is Portugal and it works with 220V and i can install neutral their, no problem.

My hub is the smartthings v2


I have some IKEA STYRBAR and SYMFONISK in the walls with their magnetic holders, they are great because they have many buttons and actions, and you can even take the button with you (for instance to have it at night in the bedside table and when you get up, in the wall). A bit on the thick side though and you need a screwdriver to replace the batteries (they can use NiMH rechargeable batteries but the button will not charge them).

In my case wall switches are not usually where I want them to be or the circuit does not control what I want, so buttons are life savers.


I understand, that was my doubt in the begining, smartswitch or button, im not very familiar with smartswitchs, offcourse in this cenario i cannot wire all the lights i want to control in the same switch but i was wondering if there is a smartswitch that we connect to mains so we dont need to swap bateries and acts like a repeater, and then we program all buttons in the app, and im looking for direct integration, works with smartthings if possible to save me some time and worries

To be honest, zigbee smart bulbs and wireless dimmers are the easiest way to start out. You don’t have to change any switches or wiring, just fit the zigbee bulbs and leave them switched on permanently.
You can then control any grouping of zigbee bulbs using a wireless dimmer placed on or near an existing dumb switches, or indeed anywhere convenient.
If you can find compatible Ikea Tradfri bulbs, it doesn’t even cost that much and you can build up your knowledge.
Hope this helps.


Thanks for the feedback i know its the easy way but has i said before i dont like the idea of smartbulbs cause if you think about it, you are trying to make your home smarter and easy for you to control and i dont think its a very smart ideia, if you turn the switch that you didnt change you loose control of the bulb, i have a family and a lot of visits, the house has to be prepared for both scenarios, the ones who want the smart control and the ones that dont, the only waybi agree with a smart switch and bulb its replacing existing wall switch so you can minimize the error.
And i like the regular wall switch, just with a little flavour into it :slight_smile:

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I have a smaller deployment of a similar use case. I have a wall switch controlled plug and wanted to control it, and a separate lamp. I used a smart switch to control the plug (and its dumb bulb) and a smart plug on the other side of the room to turn the light on and off. This allowed controlling two different items with one switch. I use one of the tools (can’t remember which) to keep them in sync.

For yours, I would go with both the switch and button. The button would control the switch (say from your bed), with the switch turning on/off dumb light bulbs. You could also use both the switch and button to control your other lights. I’d do them with smart witches (not relays), and control the dumb light bulbs.

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Different things will work for different households. :thinking: At my house, for example, we are three housemates, and there are lots of friends and family and health aides coming and going all the time. There’s no way to keep people from turning off wall switches, except to replace the switches with something smart. We also have several large rooms with as many as 12 bulbs all on one switch. So in terms of both cost and day-to-day life, our household found that in most cases, smart switches and dumb bulbs was a better combination for us. We do use some Smart bulbs, typically in locations where we want colour or colour temperature control.


Also, in Europe, there is a pretty limited choice of all in one switches available. It is very common to use relays there. Both Fibaro and Aeotec made relays the primary focus of their European lines for that reason. In North America, it’s more common to use an all in one switch. So again, different things will work for different people.


Again at our house, we mostly use a set up similar to what @KenW48360 described. Dumb bulbs. An intuitive smart switch replacing the original dumb switch. (If I lived in Europe, that would probably be a smart relay.) And multiple smart buttons (Some of which look just like regular switches) throughout the house wherever it’s convenient to have them.

For example, I have a button by my bed that can turn off the lights in four rooms for when I go to sleep. Each of those lights is controlled by a smart switch that replaced the dumb switch that used to be there.

But we also have a ceiling fan with bulbs, where we used smart bulbs and a smart button because it was way easier than trying to rewire the fan.


Personally, for buttons I really like the “friends of Hue“ battery free switches which work with the Hue Bridge. These come in both US and European styles and look like a regular switch. But they don’t get wired into Mains power and they don’t have batteries. Instead, they use “Zigbee green power” which allows the switch to capture the tiny bit of kinetic energy generated when the switch is physically pressed to send a message to the Hue Bridge. Works very well, doesn’t need batteries, and can be placed anywhere, including on a table next to the bed. To get integration with SmartThings, you need to use a community created custom edge driver because they are not part of the official integration. Or use Alexa routines as an intermediary. (Since SmartThings/aeotec hubs do not support the Zigbee green power feature, you do have to have a Hue bridge as well for these. )


For others reading along, You can use any of the EU models in the US with the Hue Bridge since these are Zigbee devices. There is also a brand that designed specifically for the US, RunLessWire, which comes in multiple colors and looks just like a regular US rocker switch or like a skinny double rocker switch depending on whether you want two functions or four. We have several of these and really like them.


Lots of different choices, available, and again different approaches will work for different people, or even in different use cases. Some people would prefer smart switches, some will prefer smart bulbs with smart buttons, some people will use some of each depending on the specific use case. Choice is good. :sunglasses:


One possibility is to use Shelly’s Z-Wave Wave 1 Mini device. The device is new and I currently have no information about its availability.

Wave 1 Mini (

Also SmartThings Driver is available the Shelly Wave edge driver

Good point. I have either covered my wall switches or labelled them ‘do not turn off’.
That would be confusing for visitors and not for everybody.

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