Sinope electric thermostats

First, I literally just used your integration, so at least for me its working (but I don’t think I’ve gotten the most recent API update so I won’t hold my breath.)

Second, thanks for the pointer. I was on another tab messing with the mode stuff that @infofiend’s code sends when you sent that. I’m going to see if updating that makes a difference.

In my Alexa logs, I see a line referencing the mode in a debug “echo” but don’t see a reference to it in the integration… does anyone know what system is generating it?

On code revision that fails:
9:11:42 PM: debug Mode: null TemperatureScale: F

One code revision that works (@tristeng’s code) :
Mode: heat TemperatureScale: F

Doesn’t look like there are any debug statements in my version of the code, so I would guess that’s smart things logging that message. Can you post more log statements surround that one? It seems to me that if the mode is null, that would be the biggest issue. This was the problem I ran into and Alexa does not like having a null mode.

I would add:

sendEvent(name: 'thermostatMode', value: "heat")

line into @infofiend code in the DeviceData function at the end and give it another try.

So i got things working, and forked the project here. Basically @infofiend created his own kind of mode to be able to support the settings in the Sinope api… which don’t line up with the SmartThings API (like he said.)

I added a different field which sets things similar to the way the official ST integration (and your fork) manage the ST settings. This lets the ST app interface through tiles remain fully functional, but the voice commands from Alexa to have corresponding logic…

So far it has worked for me… I’m not sure if the way I correlated the ST and Sinope modes would work for everyone’s use case though… If someone uses it and likes it, I could suggest a pull.

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This sounds great. I’ll try it out tonight. Thanks!

New version 1.3 of my DTH - fully integrates SmartThings’ thermostatMode capability with Neviweb/Sinope.

Hi
I am new to Smartthings
I have 12 sinope thermostats installed at my cottage for 16 months now and they work great.
I am trying to integrate other devices to my network and woud’ like to go away from Neviweb.
I am considering purchasing a smart hub and while researching i found this thread about linking Sinope thermostats to Smartthings hub.

I dont know if Smartthing is for me yet.

I saw poor reviews about this hub.

I am lookong for an aitomation hub with no suscription requirements.

Thanks

If your Main goal is controlling the Sinope thermostats then I think Neviweb is a better interface than Smartthings. You have very limited control of the thermostat with smartThings and it’s still not reliable enough to control critical devices such as electric heaters.
Smartthings is right for you or not is depending on what are your goals and what kind of devices you want to integrate. I personally love SmartThings when it’s WORKING.

Thanks for the response.

My goal is to integrate as much as possible different things. I already have a synology nas for streaming music and videos to devices through out the house, and running/recording ip cameras.

I have two wemo switches controlling relays to turn on/off a water heater and a water pump.
I have a lacrosse technology temperature sensor monitoring temperature on a spa.
I got another device controling my garage door.

And i would like to add a device to control outdoor irrigation and outdoor lightning, perhaps indoor lighting at some point.

All the devices work ok independently but each require their own apps, which is annoying. They all run on their own network and rely on the vendors’ servers. At some point I would prefer not to rely on someone else servers…

I already have issues with WeMo / IFTTT notifications and neither Belkin nor IFTTT seems to recognize the bugs between their servers.
Further the wemo switches are annoying because they default to off after power outtage instead of returning to the state it was before the outtage…

From your comment i get that Smartthings is not reliable. Is that right?

It’s getting better now but because it’s using cloud for processing automations and very little devices are qualified for local processing so if you have flaky internet or power outage then there’s a higher chance that some of your automations not working sometime.
Wemo and ip cameras have some integration with Smartthings but I am not sure about lacrosse and synology.
I think the best way for you is to browse the forum for info on ideas on devices you are currently have and devices you are thing of getting.
There’s also Wink and Vera plus as well. They all have plus and minus and tricky to know which one is right for you so read up and hopefully you will get the right hub. On this forum. There’s this guy @JDRoberts. He knows a little about smart devices and probably could answer your question.

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Every hub has pluses and minuses, so different ones will work for different people. If you look on Amazon, they all have about the same star rating, so it’s not like there’s one great one in the bunch. You just have to research each one to see what is the best match for your own needs and preferences. :sunglasses:

The following thread should be of interest (this is a clickable link):

Hi,

When can we get the new Sinope thermostat under ST:

The new Sinope DTH is ready for the latest zigbee devices:

Regards.

Does this also support the thermostats that connect to a sinope hub? I’ve wanted ST standard thermostat capabilities for those (home/away mode, for eg) but currently you have to use CoRE or another external control.

No, only the new zigbee thermostats support the away() and home() methods.

Regards

EDIT: those methods need to be called, they don’t set the mode themselves.

Is there a design or hardware limitation on the hub-based sinope stats restricting availability of home/away modes to smartthings? I only purchased some for my home a few months ago, I’d be disappointed to find out they’re left behind development-wise.

I don’t directly work for Sinope so you may want to ask @CharlieSinope about the plan for the sinope hub ones. I’ve done some contract work for them in order to bring the new zigbee thermostats up to date with the recent thermostat capabilities under ST.

I read though the api, just for my own curiosity. The currently available zigbee devices don’t support fans or cooling, but there’s a lot of references to both in the api. Is that just for future devices?

This is done in order to support the new ST thermostat capabilities and standards.

Refer to

http://docs.smartthings.com/en/latest/latest-updates.html

Esteemed colleagues- I am getting ready to replace all my 240V 4-wire baseboard heater thermostats (5) in a mountain condo. Already use ST which seems to be ok for managing doors locks, motion sensors, and temperature alerts. Price not that important. Reliability (i.e. minimal explaining to wife how to get condo heating up before she arrives, and how to set all thermostats to 55 degrees when leaving) is most important. Also perhaps noisiness, although I haven’t heard a lot about that. The options seem to be:

  1. Stelpro (which model would I want, the zigbee or z wave?)

  2. Sinope (even more confusing about which model to get)

  3. Honeywell Redlink - proprietary and being suggested by the electrician ( https://customer.honeywell.com/en-US/pages/product.aspx?cat=HonECC+Catalog&pid=YTL9160AR1000/U )

Which one should I buy? Am I missing some other important considerations?

Thanks for any help you all can offer!