New Smartthings V4 Hub released, do you already know about it?

Yes, I have some Matter lights and they show WPA3. One genre of ‘Smart devices’ that still doesn’t seem really have any progress with WPA3 is robot vacuums. Only a few top of the line models coming out just now seem to support it. Irobot told me they have no idea if or when they will. Nasty.

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Well, they will when they start using a new WiFi module since it’s mandatory, for instance when they support WiFi 6 which is an indication of using a modern chip.

Shelly for instance didn’t support WPA3 in some Gen3 models because it was using an older platform, but all Gen4 should support it.

Still, I agree that it’s something hard to find that won’t appear in specs and customer support do not even know. Reminds me when they say “Ethernet: Yes” instead of specifying if it’s a 100 Mbps port or a Gigabit port.

I have to ask Tapo about their recent RV20/RV30, I’m not allowing new WiFi devices without WPA3 at home and I was assuming they supported it.

If Samsung would just bring a Hub to the market with all of the same features that the V2 hub has with maybe some new features like BLE (to include audio) so that I would want to purchase it to replace my 2015 10 year old V2 hubs, I’d think they would make a lot of money. But when they keep excluding features that I’m currently using (like Z-Wave), then that just discourages me from buying them. So Samsung, you just lost a sale for this new V4 hub. Good luck with whatever business model you are trying to achieve with this V4 hub since I won’t be purchasing it.

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From vesternet.com :thinking:
According to vesternet, a site devoted to home automation kit, the v3 hub doesn’t support matter or thread and you can’t migrate from v3 to v4 without rebuilding every automation manually? You’d imagine they’d research the products they sell a little better.

Edit: and they are selling it for £115, when it’s 99 euro in Europe which is the equivalent of £85 .
So that’s the equivalent of 35% dearer :scream::scream::scream:

Vesternet Headquarters:

The text was probably written behind the small window on the ground floor.

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:nerd_face: that’s a bit unfair though, although not always 100% I have found Vesternet very helpful in the past and they do seem to stock things not always available elsewhere…

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Irobot said:As of now, none of our current iRobot models, including the Roomba 705 Max, support WPA3 Wi-Fi encryption. All models continue to operate using WPA2, which remains widely compatible and secure for most home networks.

It’s incredible they’re using WPA5 old security still. I can see 2022 or so, with the soclled ‘diseased’ thing, but now in 2025 stil WPA2? And not that many robots use it either still.

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I’m waiting to see the price for v4 hub on Amazon.co.uk. I’m hoping £115 plus postage is not the norm.

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I’ve notified vesternet but the factual inaccuracies of this post, I’d hope they fix it.

It appears the price of New Aeotec V3 hubs has increased to $149.99 at SmartMatters.co. Still Out of Stock at this time but keep checking back for them to be restocked.

Just checked their website, they’ve fixed it now. Might have been nice to get a reply saying thanks :roll_eyes:

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In the US, they are expecting it to be available on Oct 30. Smart Home Hub 2. Didn’t see a price mentioned.

Anyone got the new Smart home hub 2 (aka v4 hub) yet?

Keen to know how easy the transition/migration goes from existing hubs and any perceived or actual improvements (like response times etc).

I’ll probably end up getting one, since I don’t have any z-wave devices losing that feature won’t affect me. Waiting to see what price it appears on Amazon. It’s £115 on vesternet which may be an “early adopters” price :thinking:

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I recently published a video on my YouTube channel announcing the upcoming release of the Aeotec Hub 2 and noted the exclusion of a Z-Wave radio. The overwhelming response from my viewers has been one of dismay. This sentiment is not only being expressed in the comments under my video, but also echoed here on the SmartThings Community forum. Here’s a link to that video if you’d like to review the comments firsthand.

Because of the strong reaction, I reached out to Aeotec for additional clarity. I can’t share every detail of the exchange, but I am able to summarize the main points here for the community. Aeotec confirmed that while the new hub will not include Z-Wave, they intend to continue supporting and manufacturing the current hub well into 2026, possibly 2027. At this point, no further details were given regarding Z-Wave alternatives or the role of the USB port on the new hub, but I was told that more information may be made available later.

I thought it would be useful to share what I could, since many here are asking the same questions.

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It’s good that you’re tracking it. :+1:

I think it’s also important to note that the previous Samsung standalone hub product, the smartthings station, didn’t have a Z wave radio either, nor do the various Samsung smart television and smart appliance “hub inside“ options, so Samsung does have market experience with putting something out that doesn’t support zwave.

so I think that ship has sailed for them. :sailboat:

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It was claimed, albeit as a throwaway comment, that after 100 days Samsung had already sold four times as many Stations as all their other hubs put together had ever sold. So not having Z-Wave probably isn’t an issue for the broader customer base.

Supporting Z-Wave via a USB dongle seems a rather appealing idea, particularly if said dongles aren’t specific to SmartThings hubs. Indeed Z-Wave might be better served by not being built-in.

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I think it’s best to assume that Z-Wave is not supported until there is definitive information that Z-Wave is supported via specific Z-Wave USB dongles.

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As for myself, I bought my two SmartThings Station hubs more for their wireless charging capability than their SmartThings hub inside since the sale price was the same price as purchasing a Samsung wireless charger anyway.

And since I have two of them, it gave me the ability to check out the SmartThings hub groups feature which isn’t all that it’s hyped up to be when it comes to failover to the secondary hub in my experience so far.

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