Need help with my fireplace

Well, I finally got the fireplace automated. Here’s how I did it and what I learned.

Initial setup:
Low voltage switch on the wall turns the gas fireplace on and off. This switch has solid core 18 gauge wire running to it from the control module beneath the fireplace. Fan blower turns on/off via thermostat inside of fireplace. Fan blower has a reastat that controls the speed of the fan.

Automation hardware:
Aeon labs G2 smart switch

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008VWBNAUpsc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00

110 vac Dpdt dry contact relay from Amazon.

An 8 foot long extension cord
A single gang switch box

How I did it:

  • Cut the male plug end off of the ext cord about 12 inches from the end. Connect this to the L & N lines of the aeon switch.
  • cut off about 8 inches of the cord. Use this as a jumper between the connections of the switch and the input to the relay.

NOTE #1 — run the cords into the switch box before connecting to the switch. Once connected put smart switch inside of box.

NOTE #2 - the external switch input on the smart switch has to be at least a 14 gauge wire. The switch runs 120 vac through the external switch. It is NOT a low voltage external switch like what was used to turn on the fireplace.

NOTE #3 - run an acceptable gauge wire to the fireplace low voltage switch box. I just used the rest of the extension cord. I taped the end together and pulled it in as I pulled out the smaller wire.

  • at this point plug in the switch, add it to ST, and make sure everything is working fine. Ensure your relay turns on and off. Use a multimeter and make sure the dry side of the relay is closing and not applying a voltage.

  • connect the fireplace control module to the dry side of the relay.

  • store everything beneath the fireplace, clean up your mess, and enjoy.

NOTE #4 - the wall switch now acts as a toggle switch for the fire place. It’s no longer up for on and down for off. Consider what you just installed was a three way switch configuration. If the fire is on via ST or Alexa, then a single flip of the switch will turn it off. And vice versa.

NOTE #5 - a flip of the wall switch does not register a Zwave response from the smart switch to the hub. At least, I didn’t wait long enough for that to occur. I set up a rule in rule machine using a custom command for the relay, “refresh()”. I use all off the motion sensors in my house as the trigger and the action is to run the custom command. I plan to add more triggers to that just because of the fact it is a fireplace.

Summary:
Overall it was an easy project that cost me less than $50.00. I have manual control, voice control, and app control of my fireplace. If something goes wrong I can kill the entire thing at the breaker box or at the power strip installed beneath the fire place. It took me about 3 hours from start to finish, but I did double check every connection and test with power at every step. Then I rechecked the connections. I also used 3m foam tape to stick the smart switch inside of the box and the relay to the outside. This helped to immobiliz the wiring.

I’m very satisfied and the wife likes it.

@tandz

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Thanks for the right up. My setup is close. I was trying to figure out how you where bridging 110 to low voltage, and you answered it.

Theoretically could you use any 110 z-wave switch with the relay?

Yes, you can. But I wanted the manual control a well.

Was thinking about the GE zwave switches. I have a full voltage and a low voltage switch to control my fire place, so having power nearby is not an issue.

I really like this approach and actually had everything else I needed but the HH52P 110/120VAC Coil DPDT 8 Pins Electromagnetic Power Relay w DYF08A Base…so I ordered it from Amazon. I’ve never wired one of these and thought I’d be able to goggle instructions but have had no luck so far. Is that posted somewhere already…or could you please reply with what goes to which terminal on the base?

THANKS!

I definitely can help you. Give me some time… I gotta wait for my boss to leave lol

I’m gonna go back and fix the autocorrect on this…

Just saw this thread and love the integration! I was wondering why you didn’t look at doing full automation and instead of simple on-off integration with ST use a smart thermostat? That would have given you the simple on-off you wanted locally plus the added optional benefit of doing actual automatic temp control in the room. Just thinking out loud here…

Coming in late here, but I just wanted to mention that in most US jurisdictions it is against code to have anything that can turn on a gas fireplace when you’re not in that same room. You can’t even have a switch that works from an upstairs bedroom to turn on the gas fireplace downstairs.

Consequently, I’m pretty sure that adding the Aeon micro would be against code in most places, although in some, if you argue that it doesn’t do anything except with the echo in the same room you’ll be OK. But in other places just adding the capability violates local code, because they know you could do it from a different part of the house if you just move the echo.

So I would consult a licensed electrician for your area before doing this. They should be able to tell you whether it would be allowed.

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I understand the intend and the reason for this regulation and it definitely makes sense…

Odd thing though: My original gas fireplace came with an RF remote by the manufacturer. The remote works from outside the house with the doors closed.

I looked through the NY State residential (not commercial!) building code and did not find any reference to remote controls for gas fireplaces… you got me interested and so I will keep looking!

Link from my town’s web site to code:
http://publicecodes.cyberregs.com/st/ny/st/b400v10/index.htm

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It gets applied in different ways in different jurisdictions. For example, most of the handheld fireplace remotes you can buy now have built in childlocks. An Aeon micro doesn’t. Is that missing feature a violation of code, or not? It all comes down to both the local regs and the local interpretation of them.

…Just a note if anyone does decides to automate their fireplace: Instead of an aeon switch and a dry contact relay, you can also use the remotecdry contact z-wave fixture module. same functionality, about the same price but slightly easier setup.

I’m planning on using the Remotec zwave relay along with the cool enhancements @Mike_Maxwell created. Turning on the fireplace from a regular toggle switch, zwave physical switch or from virtual ST action will ignite the fireplace but will/can limit runtime to say 60mins as a safeguard if you forget to switch it off. Cheers.

Good plan! If you have a temp sensor nearby you can also turn the fireplace off when it gets too hot.

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Yeah this automation worries me. especially with all of the ST instability lately. Every switch in my home came on randomly at 3 a.m. a couple weeks ago. That would have included my fireplace if I set this up.

I don’t know electric codes for any areas, but it makes sense that you wouldn’t be able to put in remote/automatic operation because of safety.

exactly why I use the remotec with its builtin hardware timer…

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Yeah… My bad, i should have posted the link to your zfm80 device type earlier…:wink:

I have been using it for quite some time now. Never had any issues! Good work, as always!

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The plug wire coming from my microswitch controller is plugged into a power strip. During the time I’m not using the fireplace, I turn it off there and then it can’t be turned on at all.

FYI - I live in Alabama and my fireplace is used only a few weeks a year.

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Don’t want to be a bother…but if you get a chance…even a “text” based explanation of pinout would be great! The terminals on my base are numbered…assume it is the same as your DYF08A Base.

@pizzinini I would think a good rule of thumb to use is if the retailers are selling the thermostat accessories for operating a gas fireplace then using ST can’t be any different?

The difference is range. Not what you are likely to do, but what you actually are able to do. I don’t know of any fireplace remote being sold in the US that meets code that allows you to turn on the fireplace from your office 15 miles away. But SmartThings will allow you to do that. You may say that you won’t do it, but won’t and can’t are two different things, especially in building codes. :wink: