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How to use a Lutron Pocketsocket as a proxy to make a Pico visible to ST (or HomeKit) without needing any other devices

Every month or two someone asks how they can use the Lutron pico remote with SmartThings. Because these make really nice wall mount multi button control units.

There are some different ways to do it, but most require using a different server device as a “man in the middle” and it gets pretty complicated.

Unfortunately, the official SmartThings integration does not expose the pico button presses. :disappointed_relieved:

The easiest way to do it for non-technical people is to use a Lutron Caseta dimmer pocket socket plug-in as a “proxy“ for the pico.

You set up the pico to control the dimmer in the Lutron app.

Since you will be able to see the dimmer in either smartthings or HomeKit, then you just trigger your events from the changes in the dimmer.

Obviously this adds additional cost since you have to have one dimmer for each pico, so more technical people will probably prefer one of the other methods like using hubitat as a “man in the middle,” but for non-technical people, having an easy way to do this may be worth the extra cost, especially since the Picos themselves are quite inexpensive. Or you can buy a bundle which has one pico and one pocket socket, those usually cost right around $50. Since the pocket socket by itself usually cost around $45, this is a good deal in that sense.

Here’s an article explaining exactly how to do all of this:

And here’s the product:

Energy Avenue typically has this for about $10 less:

https://www.energyavenue.com/Lutron/P-PKG1P-WH

Home Depot and Lowe’s both usually carry these, so if you have gift cards or discounts there, you may also get a good price.

Again, there are lots of other ways to do this. Here’s one that was developed in this community, but you will need a raspberry pi or other server. The only advantage of using the pocket socket as the proxy is it’s just very easy to do and you don’t need any special technical knowledge.

Here again is the article on using the pocket socket as a proxy:

And here’s the community thread for the complicated way using a separate server:

How to control anything with inexpensive Lutron Pico remotes

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It might be worth noting that using the community server-based method requires a SmartBridge Pro. The pocket socket should work with any SmartBridge!

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Good point! :sunglasses:

Could you please be more specific by what you mean as ‘dimmer pocket socket plug-in’ - is it a Lutron product or is it a product by another company?

I searched the Internet for ‘Lutron Caseta dimmer pocket socket plug-in’ but could not come up with a definite product… :confused:

My apologies for any confusion. My bad.

In this forum, we call the devices that plug into a wall outlet and then offer you smart control of anything plugged into that a “pocket socket” to distinguish it from an in wall outlet which is wired to the mains or an inwall micro. That’s just because different manufacturers call these devices by different names: “module,“ “switch,“ “smart socket,“ “smart plug,” and it gets pretty confusing. These come in many different shapes, sizes, and protocols.

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Lutron calls theirs “Lamp dimmer modules” or “plug in dimmers.“. But also sometimes markets it just under the name “lamp dimmer.“ ( to Lutron, “lamp,“ means “table lamp,“ that is, something not ordinarily controlled by a wall switch but instead plugged into an outlet.)

There is a bundle package that comes with one pocketsocket and one Pico remote, model number P-PKG1P-WH

The pocket socket by itself is model PD-3PCL-WH.

Like most Lutron items, you can usually get these the cheapest from energy Avenue, which is a no-frills warehouse operation . ( I haven’t bought anything from them myself, but a number of community members have.)

https://www.energyavenue.com/Lutron/PD-3PCL-WH

Thank you for the information…

I am trying to understand all that ‘lingo’ while at the same time trying to integrate/use some Lutron devices (I have purchased a while back) with my SmartThings hub. After reading probably 5-6 threads (and possibly hundred of messages) with the term ‘Lutron Pico’, I still cannot understand what needs to be done … everything seems so complicated … why can companies not make all their devices!! :confused:

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The shortest answer is that if you use the official SmartThings integration and you have a lutron Caseta SmartBridge, You will be able to see your Lutron Caseta wall switches in your SmartThings account and include them in your automations with your other smartthings controlled devices. But you will not be able to see your Picos in your SmartThings account. You can still use your Picos through your Lutron app, And you can still use a pico as the auxiliary switch with your mains-powered Caseta switch as the master switch in a 3 way setup.

But in that setup you cannot use your Lutron Picos To do anything else in smartthings. They are just invisible to smartthings.

So that’s what you get with the official integration. Full control of the mains powered switches in your SmartThings account. But the Picos remain invisible to the SmartThings app.

Because the Picos are such a nice small remote, quite often people will say, “but I want to use the pico for something else with SmartThings.” Like maybe you want to use it to turn some non-Lutron lights on and off. Or maybe you want to give it to a guest to use it to change the SmartThings mode from “away” to “home.”

That’s when you start getting into all the other methods, including the one described in this thread.

But if you’re fine with just using your Picos as the auxiliary switches in a three-way with your Lutron Caseta master switch, you don’t have to worry about any of that. Smartthings will be able to integrate the master switch. And you can use the Lutron app to set up the pico to control the master switch. So that’s all a lot of people need. :sunglasses: