GE Z-Wave switch half second delay

I have the 12722 switches as well, and have noticed a similar delay. Something else I have noticed (and find puzzling) is that the delay seems to be shorter when the circuit is controlled from a 12723 add-on switch. I’d love a look at the firmware to figure out what’s going on. Seems to me they should both be nearly instant (like the Aeon in-wall controller).

I’ve never measured it, but I also believe my add on switches are faster than the master…

Just went out and tested mine for you. There is a delay of about of a quickly spoken “1-one thousand” between the time the toggle on the switch clicks and when the internal relay of the switch clicks and turns the lights on.

This is normal and is present on all my GE switches. The amount of delay is the exact same whether or not I’m operating the switch directly or with an add-on switch.

With the GE switches the on/off signal has to go through the switches internal circuit board and software before turning on the internal relay. With AEON labs and Enerwave switches (that go inside junction box and are controlled by a standard switch) are instantaneous because the wire from the controlling switch hooks directly to the control side of the relay(s) inside the box and thus does not need go through “processing” first.

Hope this makes sense and helps. If you are still unsure, my only suggestion to you would be to buy another switch (you need another switch to control more stuff right?) and compare the operation between the two.

I know this topic is more then a year old but just googled for this similar topic and I feel I can contribute…

I recently also started to make my home smart and I got a mix of Philio PAN06, Fibaro FGS-222 and FGS-223.
The first time I powered them up, the first thing I noticed (and that bothered me) was the delay as you described but I must say there is much difference between the different modules I have tried.

From the modules I have, Philio PAN06 has by far the worst latency (something like you describe).
The Fibaro FGS-223 has some latency but it is almost not noticeable but the fastest was actually the older version Fibaro FGS-222 which almost has no noticeable latency.

I didn’t record them so I can give you the exact numbers but still maybe it helps. :wink:

Anyway thanks for the comments in this thread, I believe I will try Aeotec modules next. (since I still need to epand)

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Well, I thought about researching this too after my install of several GE switches. In any circuit with an add on switch, the light turns on faster with the add on than with the master. I am very aware of and sensitive to these things. It doesn’t really bother me, but made me think I should have installed the add on switches in the positions that get the most use instead of the other way around. Also of note, all my add on circuits are 3 way, I can’t speak for 4 way, etc.

Just installed a GE 14295 paddle switch to be presented with the 1/2 second delay. How frustrating, especially compared to another Levitron switch which is instantaneous. Guess I’ll return them and buy the better brand.

@winter What do you mean by a better brand? Which ones don’t do this?

The levitrons i have are instantaneous. Not sure why the get switches have a 0.5 sec delay

Maybe it’s the dimming that makes it seem like there’s a delay. I have both types of GE switches and only the dimming ones seem like there a delay (I think bec going from 100% to 90% doesn’t look that different).

Anyone know of a way to have a GE dimming switch going from 100% to 0% if you click once but dim if you hold down the button?

I just checked my GE switches, only the Decora seems to have the delay. The traditional one doesn’t have any noticeable delay at all. These are the 12xxx series switches.

As for the dimming question…that is exactly how my GE switches behave. A single tap and they turn off/on. Hold the button and they dim.

So I think they are turning off right away it’s just that they dim off (meaning they go from 100% to 99, 98, 97, etc. My regular switches (non dimming) go from on to off.) Is there a smartthings settings that I could change?

There is a custom DTH that allows you to modify the ramp rate on the GE switches. I just did a quick and dirty test and by modifying the parameter 9 value from 1 up to 99, the light no longer dims when triggered on or off. But…it ended up messing with my ability to dim from the wall switch. I did not test much else including changing any of the other values to see if I can find a middle ground.

The DTH I am messing with is from jscgs350 called the “My Enhanced GE Dimmer” from this thread:
https://community.smartthings.com/t/3-way-dilemma-leviton-or-linear-for-kitchen-living-area-instant-or-not/54157/20

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He mention he uses the 4xxxx series, I have the I’m have 14294 will it work?

No idea…one way to find out though. I am using the 12xxx (12729) series myself.

I tried it and it worked :slight_smile: I wish I knew about this earlier. Thanks!

Btw how can I figure out what the best timing option is for my bulbs?

Trial and error.
For me, it’s 5-2-1-2 in that order. That makes it fast from program and controllable from switch.

Thanks for all your help, my family is really enjoying the fact the lights turn on when they click the switch. As for the dimming capability we still can do that from the app so we now have the best of both worlds:)

I finally started toying with the settings last night…which included the glaring stare from my wife as the living room lights repeatedly turned on and off. I am at 3-2-4-2 at the moment, but I haven’t done a heck of a lot of testing from the switch itself to see if dimming is still possible there. I for sure have more testing to do…as well as more switched to tune. If the dimming from the switch isn’t smooth, I will probably make that action be very quick and push to the app for dimming.

Long time to reply, but I figured out at some point that the delays in these switches is intentional to support double tap scenarios. Basically the switch is waiting to see if you do a double tap, before given up and defaulting to a single.

If you don’t want a delay between activating a switch and the lights turning on, you need to avoid a device that supports double-tap, or at least choose one that lets you deactivate it.

This thread started with 12xxx devices which do not support double tap.

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