I wired a z-wave relay to act as a momentary contact switch, which triggers the garage door just like the button on my wall. I used a project box, extension cord, and some spare wire lying around the house to get it all together. I paired that with a tilt sensor and it’s simply beautiful. It has the highest WAF out of everything, so I’m really glad I still have the dashboard (and alert) functionality!!!
Linear but I don’t see how that matters. I customized the device and remove “contact” switch because I didn’t see the point of having contact switch along with Garage Door since they both have “Open” and “Close” but may mean different things.
“Garage Door Capibility” or “Door Control” capability meaning of Open and Close is obvious. Contact switch doesn’t make sense for a door.
Why doesn’t “Rule Machine” support one or both of these capabilities ?
Quite frankly because I haven’t been able to figure out what’s going on with garage doors and ST. Which capability is being used, and in what device types?
My own garage doors are Linear relays with an ST contact sensor, so Rule Machine can just flip a switch for me. This used to be the combination sort of supported by ST in V1 mobile app. Then that went away, evidently, although I haven’t paid any attention to details. Full disclosure, I have not automated my garage doors with Rule Machine, simply because they aren’t automated at all other than sending me a notification if I leave them open after we’ve left, and I’ve been too busy to redo that.
So my question is, what is the definitive, supported by ST, garage door capability, and is it really supported or just a wanna be? If it’s officially the way things will be supported going forward, I’d be happy to add it to Rule Machine. If it’s still a confused mess, which it has seemed to be, then I’ll wait.
I don’t understand this issue but it’s your app @bravenel so your call. I thought supporting “Garage Door Capability” just means you can subscribe to open and close actions as well as call the open and close methods. Seems to work for smart apps I have written in the past but honestly I have not tried recently so perhaps that is yet another thing broken at ST.
I just want a simple notification that my garage door has been left open. When I bought ST it was the first thing I implemented and I was so happy with the results I bought a ton of devices to automate my home. If I had bought my ST hub today I would have returned it already. I can’t believe the very first thing I was happy to make ST do is now broken. What a mess.
it is door control… I have it in my smartapp that links a virtual/simulated garage door with a switch/relay and sensor…
I actually recently added the switch capability to the virtual garage device so that I can tell alexa to open and close it as amazon echo only supports switches and not doors.
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Reading the posts about the garage door got me wondering about mine… for some reason it works great and does everything I want it to do… including respond to Rule Machine, Alexa, and not open when told to close or none of that silliness.
I have a Genie garage door opener and I’m using a NuTone Z-wave Garage Door Opener.
The device type is not a stock one, I think. I honestly do not remember where I found this one.
But this is it:
At any time in the ST app I can press one of momentary buttons and the door will either open or close. Pressing the same button again (ex: open when the door is already open) does not cause the door to trigger again. It does nothing.
The Alexa app sees the door as a “SmartThings: Device” ( I have no idea what that means ).
All of this is because someone said that Rule Machine has no garage door capability. But, it does. I just use the “Switch” capability and choose the “Garage Door” switch.
So, I created this rule to check it out and see what happens. The rule uses the “Switch” labeled in the picture above. While the switch is on the door opens. When the switch is off, the door closes.
All of this is just to let others know that there is a garage door capability built in, sort of. I guess it matters on the door opener, the device type and all that jazz…
Edit:
This is the github link to where I got the device code.
And this is the link to the thread that I found all of this in when I installed the door opener:
tgauchat
(ActionTiles.com co-founder Terry @ActionTiles; GitHub: @cosmicpuppy)
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Looks exactly like the Device Type I wrote for my home theatre projection screen, actually… Since it’s a lot like a garage door, donchaknow.
I added Switch Capability so that Alexa can turn it on(down), or off(rolled up).
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All I know… it works like a charm on my garage door!
@bamarayne That is my version of the device code (I am gouldner on github) so can you tell me how you would configure “Rule Machine” to do what I am trying to do ? You are using it as a switch which I know will work since i added the switch code. But I am trying to have the door open be the event that triggers not the action that is taken.
I just want
When door left open for more then 5 min alert me every 30 min
I would settle for if door left open for 5 min send one alert.
I am trying to set it up on my own using “Contact” switch.
I have the garage door as the condition, when “Open” but I am confused why it then says
Garage open [FALSE]
That makes me think I need to take action on “False” but that seems non-intuitive. This is why I find do everything apps difficult to set up and once you set them up and forget them for a while you don’t remember how you configured them to make changes.
No offense, looks like a great app, just no my cup of tea.
So I decided to give up on this app however now when I select Garage->Smart Apps->Garage Left Open (which created even though I didn’t finish it) and then select remove I get the following.
bamarayne
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@Ron first of all, thanks for the device type, it works seamlessly with my echo devices. I don’t need virtual switches or anything.
I guess I misunderstood what you were asking. But if you scroll up to post #376 I posted a screenshot of my rule machine rule for my “garage door open alert”
Using the switch in the device type as the trigger for the rule.
Here it is again:
As for the false and true in the rule, well I’m really not sure about that. I’ve been meaning to ask @bravenel what that means. For some reason I’m thinking it is showing what the current state of the device is at the moment you are looking at the rule.
Now, in the picture above here is what is going on at the moment I took the screenshot…
Define the conditions: garage door open (false) the garage door was closed
Android, any not present (true) I wad not home
Garage motion sensor inactive (true) there was no motion in the garage
The time part (false) it was 2:39 pm
(Based on what I just wrote, I’m going with it is showing the actual state of the device. This is handy when you are thinking about the logic but aren’t standing in front of the device)
So, if the garage door is open AND one or both of us are not at home AND there is no motion in the garage it will send the push message. OR if it is during the time of day set (dark) it will send the message.
And it delays the rule by ten minutes before it sends the message, which it does only once.
The thing I really like about rule machine is that it can perform actions when the rule is true AND when the rule is false. This makes the presence sensor arrival really easy. And I’m willing to bet if you look at the code in the ST apps about “someone arrives home” it will be almost identical to RM code.
Just remember, you can make RM do things in both the positive and negative aspect of what your sensors are reporting.
I hope this helps.
bamarayne
(Jason "The Enabler" as deemed so by @Smart)
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This means that at the moment you choose garage open, the garage was closed. I bet if you open the garage and choose this again it will say true.
At least I’m about 98.48231% sure that is what it means.
I have given up on this for now. It just keeps failing when I try to set it up. Probably ST server fault but it is too hard to play with configuration when it keeps failing while I test it.
I figured out how to delete the app at least. I edited the messed up rule and made a simple rule that worked so I could click done, return and delete it.
bamarayne
(Jason "The Enabler" as deemed so by @Smart)
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I wonder if your app install is corrupt. Maybe it would help if you uninstalled the entire so and started over?