Starting to play with HA and ST and bought a ecobee3 and successfully added the ST device. But can’t figure out how could I set up so that everyone has left home (presence defined through phones), ST sets the thermostat to Away mode and when anyone returns sets it to Home mode. The more I read the threads, the more I get confused. Looks like I might need to buy community device handler. Can someone please clarify and help here…
If you want to avoid using some complex or external apps (which introduce unnecessary delays) to do a simple thing such as setting your thermostat away or present, then you need My Ecobee device which has been around for more than 2 years and it’s reliable…There are a lot of smartapps that you can use with my Ecobee device; in fact, there is no other ecobee implementation that gives you so much features.
As your requirements grow, you will be then able to use more smartapps at my github for more complex scenarios. So, myEcobee device can really grow with you…
For example, the ecobee3’s smart away and follow me features are proprietary. With MyEcobee device, you can use any ST connected temp and motion sensors to do similar features and with faster response times (setting your thermostat to away in 5 minutes instead of a minimum of 30 minutes with ecobee’s smart away).
See this thread for more details:
P.S. When you buy an ecobee3 thermostat for more than $200, a mere $20 to get all ecobee’s API rich features is not much. MyEcobee device can really turn your ecobee thermostat to a smart thermostat when exposed to ST and unlock ALL features.
Another example: if you plan to add Keen Home smart vents later, My Ecobee device is even more useful as my Zoned Heating/Cooling solutions orchestrate ecobee3’s with the vents for optimal comfort and energy efficiency.
I think this will work for me now. Can you please let me know which virtual switch are you using. @yvesracine, I have looked at your device handler and looks very interesting and feature rich, for now I am only getting my feet wet and as I get more deep into it, will definitely look to buy this.
Thanks. I setup the switch and it is working to trigger IFTTT recipe upon power on or off. However it seems twice today the IFTTT script was not triggered even though the virtual switch was switched on or off. SO will need to watch and if it is unreliable, I might need to go the paid solution.
The nice thing about a virtual switch is that you can test it manually. Just turn the switch on and off. I can tell you from experience, there is no need to go with the paid version. I’ve had mine running with IFTTT with a success rate of 9/10 or better. In my case the issue is generally related to presence sensors not updating correctly.
With IFTTT, there will likely be a delay, though I rarely experience more than a 1m delay. Since IFTTT polls for changes, it can take 15 minutes or more at times.
I would definitely look at @StrykerSKS Ecobee app if IFTTT doesn’t work as well as you’d like or if you’d like to remove an intermediate service.
Thanks, StrykerSKS and carmp3fan. @carmp3fan, yes I did try the virtual switch on and off manually and once there as well the IFTTT script did not trigger. But will see. definitely virtualswitch is great if you want to turn off AC, even if you are home and working outside etc and you can use the switch.
@StrykerSKS, let me try the free version, I wasn’t aware that the free version had the capability to do home/away based on presence sensors.
No other ecobee implementation can expose so many ecobee API features, as their design limits the features they can expose. In fact, the stock ST device is very limited because of its design,
My design is unique (and has been validated by the SmartThings architects)…There is
no back and forth between a parent smartapp (which causes performance issues) and the device handler for each feature: the device handler is as independent as possible and can even work without the parent smartapp. The DTH can run without the service manager if needed (can be useful when the ST platform has severe performance and backend issues like back in December). No other ecobee implementation can do that, as their design is too tightly coupled.
I’ve created many automations and divided them into many smartapps as I want to create as many independent & dedicated services as possible.
This way, each “micro service” can be modified & tested independently from each other: this design approach allows faster changes and less ST related platform issues (instead of creating a big smartapp that does everything and requires more maintenance). This “micro service” approach limits the impact on the end users as well when a change is needed.
The end users can also pick and choose the automations that they really need to meet their own use cases.
As a reminder to the rich capabilties of MyEcobee device, here are some use cases (and the related smartapps):
1) Setting your thermostat to Away or Home based on ST hello modes
See the ecobeeChangeMode smartapp.
2) Resuming your program/climate when you’re back home
See the ecobeeResumeProg smartapp.
3) Setting your thermostat to vacation mode
See the ecobeeManageVacation smartapp.
4) Creating/updating your ecobee climates/schedules
See the ecobeeManageClimate smartapp.
5) Setting your ecobee climate/program at a given time
See the ecobeeSetClimate smartapp.
6) Monitoring and setting your indoor humidity level using your humidifer/dehumidifer/HRV/ERV (when connectedto ecobee)
It also allows you to use the ecobee’s free cooling feature…
See the MonitorAndSetEcobeeHumidity smartapp and this thread for more details:
7) Monitoring and setting your setpoints based on any ST connected indoor temp/motion sensors (similar to ecobee3’s follow me feature) & outdoor temperature
See the MonitorAndSetEcobeeTemp smartapp., and this thread for more details:
8) Exposing your ecobee3’s remote sensors to SmartThings for HA scenarios
See the ecobee3RemoteSensorInit smartapp.
9) Controlling your smart vents based on your indoor temp/motion sensors in conjunction with your thermostat’s programs & setpoints
See the ecobeeSetZoneWithSchedule smartapp
10) Controlling your minimum fan time per hour during a climate/schedule run
See the ecobeeSetFanMinOnTime smartapp
11) Generating some ecobee HVAC stats on a daily basis and sending them to groveStreams for data analytics
You can then use groveStreams to map your stats on a graph like this one:
My Smartapps are getting recognized also not only by Ecobee, but by other partners as well: Keen Home Smart Vents just recognized my work recently.
The smart vents integration means that you can schedule your ecobee’s setpoints in conjunction with controlling your smart vents.
No other implementation out there allows such smart integration for better comfort and energy savings.
Why settle for less when you can get everything and much more??
See this thread for more details:
_P.S. My design is also better suited for the next generation of ecobee thermostats. In fact, My ecobee device’s design is so versatile that it can run for any ecobee thermostat models: ecobee3, Smart-SI, Smart, EMS, and any upcoming models.
OK, sorry to interrupt the snark, but i have a question and i will accept ridicule. Please be gentle. I’ve tried to copy/paste @StrykerSKS code into a new smart app. I get this error. I did paste all 774 lines showing. What did i do wrong?
No signature of method: script1467117130657352888491.metadata() is applicable for argument types: (script1467117130657352888491$_run_closure1) values: [script1467117130657352888491$_run_closure1@3bea83b3] Possible solutions: getMetadata(), getState(), setState(java.lang.Object), metaClass(groovy.lang.Closure)
The code you are pasting is not a SmartApp. It’s a Device Type Handler. Go to the My Device Handlers tab and add a new Device Type Handler from code. Not sure if there’s a SmartApp to accompany the DTH, but I assume you can install the standard Ecobee integration from ST and then, once you created the DTHs and published them, go to the Ecobee device in My Devices, edit the ecobee thermostat, and choose the newly imported DTH instead of the standard one. Not sure if this is the way, but it seems the most logical at this point.
As ady624 mentions, what you posted was the Device Handler. There is the SmartApps (Connect, Ecobee Routines). And two Device Handlers (Thermostat, Sensor). The instructions guide you through each step, so please follow them line by line.