I have the Eaton Aspire switches throughout my house so when I needed a 3way ELV dimmer, I went and purchased the RF9540N and RF9542Z at the recommendation of Eaton support. I did not know these were zwave until they arrived but I installed regardless as I would not be able to return the items. After I installed, the 9542 accessory would not work and after some research I realized it needed to be associated via zwave. I then go out and buy the smart things hub but I now find out the 9542 cannot be added via the new app. I called smart things support and they stated they could not help but pointed me to this forum stating someone here will be able to provide a solution, possibly using the classic app. I did read on the forum about a thing called a minimote but was not sure if I need this to get my switches working. At this point, I just want the 9542 to be able to control the light. If I am not able to control the light via the app, no big deal. Thanks!
We used to use the minimote, which is another device, But now you can just use the Z wave Tweaker, which is software, a device driver. You will temporarily assign your accessory switch to that driver, set all the associations, and then assign the switch back to the regular driver. The associations are stored in the firmware on the switch itself, so they will still be set.
It sounds harder than it is, itās basically just copy and paste, and there are lots of people who will be glad to help you. Unfortunately, Iām not feeling very well today, so Iām going to leave it up to other people going forward. But you can find the tweaker in the following thread and ask questions there:
And hereās the community FAQ on how to install custom code. You will need to be using the classic app for this, but itās fine if you have both versions of the app. (The topic title is a clickable link)
Thank you for your help JDRoberts. I hope you feel better. I logged into the smartthings IDE on my PC and can see all of my devices but do not know what to cut and paste. As I am new to all of this, can someone please help me figure out how to add the 9542 to my smartthings hub.
Thank you!
Sorry folks, I was able to add z wave tweaker to my device handler in smartthings IDE but now stuck as to what I need to do next. I thought the tweaker would show up on my classic app but it does not. I still am not able to add the RF9542 as the app will not recognize it. Please help!!
Thanks.
Find the switch you want to control in the devices list in the IDE. Make note of its device ID.
Find the switch that you want to ātweakā in the devices list in the IDE (the accessory switch?). Click on it to open the device page. Make note of the āTypeā. Then edit at the bottom. Set its device handler (āTypeā) to Tweaker. Select āUpdateā.
Now goto your mobile app (classic) and look at the switches page. It should show the tweaker controls. Select the gear icon in the upper right. Enter the Association Group ID (likely in the instructions for the device) , Enter the device ID in the Group Members.
I think you want to set Command Class to Autodetect. Otherwise look for the 85 or 8E in you devices raw description.
Once you get things working you can set the switches device handler (āTypeā) back to the original.
Thank you for your help. My challenge is when I try to add the accessory switch, the switch itself is responding to the request to add as the led on the switch changes from blinking to a solid light but the switch does not show up my device list. I did the zwave exclusion and re-added three times but it still does not show up. Trying to figure out how I can get the switch to show up on the device list.
Thank You!
You may want to try two things.
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look in the manual for the switch and see if there is a factory reset that can be done.
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If it is a long way from the hub, remove it from the wall, wire to an extension cord and plug it in near the hub. Then try to pair it. If successful reinstall, and run a z wave repair on the hub.
Also I found this: https://www.eaton.com/content/dam/eaton/products/wiring-devices-and-connectivity/wiring-devices/z-wave-wireless-collection/z-wave-wireless-accessory-dimmer-spec-sheet.pdf
Once you get it paired it looks like Group 1 is where you want to associate your other switch. Also look at the configuration parameters. You can tweak those to your liking.
Have you figured this out yet? I have the same issue and it is becoming frustrating. I have tried on the new smartthings and classic version.
If you are using a custom DTH, this is probably the stale DTH problem.
I do not have any custom DTH. I was going to set up the tweaker to sync the switches once I could see the accessory in my device list.
Is this topic dead, or still active? Iām struggling with the same or similar issue.
Jack
Which issue? There are several discussed in this thread, along with a couple of solutions.
Sorry, I canāt even find how to quote what Iām replying to. Iām not familiar with this forumās software.
I should probably start a new topic, specific to my issues.
I accidentally bought an RF9617 (Z-Wave accessory switch) to use with an RF9640-N (Z-Wave Plus Universal Smart Dimmer). Eaton lists the correct accessory switch as the RF9642-Z, which includes a dimmer. I have NO need of the dimmer on the accessory switch, so is it possible to associate the RF9617 with the RF9640-N?
Let me know if I should start āmy ownā new topic.
Thanks.
I think it will work, itās just an on/off accessory so you wonāt get dimming from the accessory switch. But I just donāt know for sure if the Eaton master switch will accept the on/off command or if it expects a dim level command.
Before doing anything else, if it was me, I would contact Eaton support and ask them what will happen if you use that accessory with their dimming master switch.
I already did that. I initially bought the CORRECT switch (the RF9642) and could not find out how to associate it with the RF9640-N. I spent a frustrating hour or more with their techs, and they told me to contact SmartThings, they donāt support it. I went as far as speaking to a manager to tell them āworks with SmartThingsā is inappropriate if they donāt support making it āwork with SmartThingsā. Thatās when I returned all my ācompanionā switches. I used hard-wired toggles for the non-dimmable switches, but I found the dimmable one has no traveler wire and does not support hard-wired connections.
After realizing their switch was my only option, thatās when I went back and mistakenly bought the RF9617. Since I donāt care about having a second dimmer control, thatās why Iām asking if I can associate this switch with the master (RF9640-N). But Eaton does not support their product in any way that I can tell. Itās unfortunate, because the switches seem to be high quality.
So thatās correct, one dimmer (and automation) is enough.
Iām game to try it, but Iām lost on the instructions. I figured out what āIDEā is, and Iāve installed the Z-Wave Tweaker, but Iām still pretty lost. The Z-Wave Tweaker doc repeatedly refers to ātilesā but I canāt find anything in the mobile app that resembles them.
Jack
And since Z-Wave Tweaker broke my automations (that was expected), how do I remove it? I canāt now, because āDeviceType still in use by devicesā. The Z-Wave Tweaker doc says:
Cleanup Tile:
Tap this tile when you have finished using the Z-Wave Tweaker. It will remove all collected data in preparation for reinstating the original device handler.
I donāt see any āCleanup Tileā (or any tile, for that matter), or anything about Labs or Z-Wave Tweaker in my mobile app.
Jack
You are only intended to use the Tweaker for a moment in time while you reconfigure the device you assigned to it through the IDE.
As soon as you complete that configuration, you should manually reassign the device to its original DTH.
So if your Routines did stop working, it would only be for the brief period of time while you were reconfiguring that device and they would be restored once you went back to the original DTH.
You are correct that the ācleanupā process is no longer needed: that was used with a previous version of the app.
Speaking of which: are you using the version from post 209 in this thread? Not the original version? (See the topic title). There were several required revisions when the ST app received a major update.
Also, in your case you would only use the tweaker for the trigger device, in this case the accessory switch. Not the target (the master).
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I got the code from SmartThings/devices/zwave-tweaker at master Ā· codersaur/SmartThings Ā· GitHub, not from post #209. It is:
- Date: 2017-03-16
- Version: 0.08
Since I thought the Tweaker would do its own cleanup, so I did not make note of the original DTHs that were assigned. Is there a way to retrieve that info? My mobile client has an āORIGINAL SETTINGSā section, but it appears empty.
I have been ill for a couple of days. I intended to write a post for you explaining what the tweaker does for your specific devices, but thatās going to have to wait until I feel better.
Iām sure all this feels very technical and overwhelming. The fact is that smartthings gives us many fewer tools than a typical Z wave hub. Most of them just have a screen for each device which lets you quickly set it up to control another Z wave device. All you have to do is select the device to be controlled.
Smartthings doesnāt. They appear to have made a design decision back in 2013 that they would hide any protocol ā specific features from the end-user so that a Zigbee device would look just like a Z wave device. Thatās the whole reason you need a DTH to begin with: itās a smartthings-specific construct that theyāve laid over the independent third-party specifications.
Over the years, several device manufacturers have become frustrated with this whole idea because it means that their certified devices which work just fine on most zwave hubs donāt work on smartthings without special code used only for smartthings, and smartthings keeps changing how that special code works so it has to keep being updated. So the manufacturers have two choices: they can hire somebody whose job it is to keep up with the smartthings-specific changes, as Zooz and Inovelli have, or they can throw up their hands and say āwe are certified to the independent third-party specifications, and anything else is the responsibility of the hub manufacturerā as Fibaro has done. And from your description, it sounds like that may be the direction that Eaton is going as well.
Itās very frustrating for us as customers, but it is understandable from the manufacturers point of view. And it leaves us as a community trying to help each other.
Thanks,
Now I see thereās a later version ā the scroll bar says itās post #205 (not 209) but the actual html target is #209. But I found it anyway:
- Author: David Lomas (codersaur)
- Date: 2017-03-16
- Version: 0.09
Since I have devices using the Tweaker, I canāt remove or update it.
āTechnicalā is not a problem. Iām a Unix Engineer by day.
Having to jump between multiple sources (Github, forum posts, etc.) and then decipher unfamiliar jargon (IDE, groovy, DTH, blah blah blah) is pretty challenging, though.
Thanks for your help. I hope you feel better soon. But if I canāt get this solved today, Iām considering returning these switches to Loweās and replacing them with the Leviton switches that use travelers. I wish Iād bought those in the first place. Fortunately, Loweās is pretty good about returns.