Many of the features once found in SmartApps can now be created using the SmartThings Scenes and Routines section of your app. This new feature set has the added benefit of faster controls and local execution. If you are unable to find a custom solution using the SmartThings Community here before the shutdown on December 31, 2022 , we recommend you recreate your SmartApp configuration using a Routine or Scene if possible.
But the function isn’t in any of the menus in my Android phone app. For example, on the first page after opening the app I can add devices, services, or routines, but not scenes:
Searching the forum I find lots of topics discussing various issues with scene functions but nothing suggesting the functions are removed. Nor does the official documentation or FAQ suggest they are removed, in fact the docs for Scenes API suggest the opposite. All of which makes me wonder whether it is something about my profile or account, specifically.
Any suggestion on how I might fix this or clarification on the status of Scenes would be greatly appreciated. This has been driving me nuts. Thanks in advance!
Here’s what it looks like in iOS this morning at the time of this writing. As @jkp notes below, it looks like they may have changed the name in android. Without announcement, or documentation, per usual.
Man, I wish smartthings would implement normal changelogs!
choose “Automations“ from the bottom row menu.
tap on the plus sign at the top right and you should be given the choice to “create routine“ or create scene.“
Thanks! Unfortunately, my app doesn’t have an Automations menu item, it only has Routines. When I select Routines then the + it takes me straight into routine creation with no intermediate options. I checked the Play store and there is no update pending o the app. This discrepancy across app platforms is another source of aggravation because it limits the degree to which the community can help itself. Samsung, are you listening?
Found that but didn’t recognize what it is. Thanks!
Ah, yes. I think I remember that term introduced in UI Design 101.
I own a Samsung wall oven and there’s an option to sync the time over the Internet. Unlike virtually every other device that performs this function, from a $3 Single Board Computer chip to an $80k truck, the Samsung oven doesn’t periodically poll the network time server. The user must manually initiate the time sync and it REBOOTS the oven to do it! Don’t even get me started on the TV UI. The Cluster F#£k phenomenon appears to be widespread in the brand.
Thanks @orangebucket for the screen shot! Marking yours as the solution because of the reference to an authoritative doc. Sorry, @jkp, it was a close call but gotta go with the most authoritative source.
Exactly. After reading all the replies I searched for “manually run routine controller” and, unsurprisingly, found nothing. Scene controller returns hits-a-plenty though. The term is unlikely to change among hardware vendors who currently all agree on it for a specific type of device. Changing it in the app creates a situation in which the functionality and the device made to utilize that functionality have different names, the only outcome of which is to up the level of difficulty to use the SmartThings ecosystem. Why anyone would think that was a good idea and sign off on it is beyond my understanding.
I am imagining a Python-esque dialog here.
“ST do not read or take note of anything we see or say.”
“Yes, we do.”
“No, you don’t.”
“I’m responding now.”
“But it isn’t substantive. It doesn’t address any technical issue.”
“It addresses our responsiveness stat in the CustSat survey.”
“I still don’t have scenes!”
“Sure you do. You are making one now.”
Thanks for all the replies. I was out all morning on a job and delighted to find all the helpful responses.