Deadbolt/Deadlock on Z-Wave (EU frequency) available in the UK?

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As confirmation yes the US and UK Yale modules are shaped differently. So far there is still no UK HomeKit module although there is in the US from Yale.

If by deadbolt we mean Europrofile locks then there are now a number of options. As already mentioned there is the Danalock v3 which is available in both Zigbee and Z-Wave and HomeKit versions. Danalock have announced a keypad but this would mean you end up with two key pads one for the Yale Night Latch and one for the Danalock.

EveHome formerly Elgato have announced a lock this like all other EveHome products will be HomeKit only. I mention it because it is a modified version of a Yale ENTR lock - https://www.yalelock.com/en/yale/com/smart-living/products/smart-door-locks/entr/

As far as I can see even though this is not sold in the UK it is sold in Europe and uses the Yale European style modules. There is also the Yale Doorman https://www.yalelock.com/en/yale/com/smart-living/products/smart-door-locks/yale-doorman/

There is also the Nuki - https://nuki.io/en/smart-lock/

With Assa Abloy having bought August Smart Locks, I had hoped this would result in some new products for Europe. It looks like this will be a very long time happening.

Hypothetically they could have used the August technology to do a Europrofile lock and to standardise the software across August and Yale products so that one keypad could unlock both a Night Latch and a Dead bolt lock.

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Just to update. I ordered Assure Lock® SL Key Free Touchscreen Deadbolt (YRD256)
https://www.yalehome.com/en/yale/yalehome/residential/yale-real-living/assure-lock/yrl-assurelock-sl/ from Amazon.com and the Assure Lock ZigBee Network Module US version (AYR202-ZB-HA) https://www.shopyalehome.com/Products/Accessories/AYR202-ZB-HA-USA.aspx from ebay. It works fine with UK SmartThings hub.

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Slightly off topic but this seems the most active discussion for UK and particularly Yale locks.

I have a Yale Keyless Connected smart lock, this originally had the first version of the Z-Wave module. (This is a UK lock with a European module.) This all worked fine with my Smartthings v2 Hub.

I recently bought a newer Z-Wave version 2 module (the blue one) and this is again a European spec module.

Unfortunately whilst the lock recognises the module is plugged in my Smartthings Hub v2 does not. I have now tried two different version 2 modules and even two different Smartthings Hub v2 units with no better result. The Hub simply does not see the module when I try pairing.

I did correctly exclude the original v1 module. The Yale lock will not let me exclude it again because it (presumably) knows the module has already been excluded. Just in case I also tried excluding the new v2 modules with the same result. The Yale lock does enter pairing mode but unfortunately the Smartthings Hub just does not see it.

I did find another thread here from someone with a Yale Conexis L1 lock who had tried to use a v2 module and had the same result. He ended up buying a v1 module instead.

The whole point of the v2 module is that it is now a Z-Wave Plus device and has enhanced security.

Sadly Yale UK do not sell either Zigbee or Apple HomeKit modules - both available from Yale US for only US locks.

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Thanks @jelockwood for your two posts, very thorough.
I’m quite annoyed as I’ve got now a Yale z-wave nightlatch for my garden door, but can’t get the same as a deadlock for the front door…

I could set a nightlatch for the front door, but a strong push would probably kick the door open :cry:

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Just to update, I also bought 5 of the Yale YRD256 locks including Zigbee modules, from Amazon US. I have 4 of these working fine in Hubitat. The 5th seems to have an outdated Zigbee module. Although it has the same model number written on the module as the others, the version stickers on it are different. And although it does basic locking/unlocking, it does not report who has unlocked/locked correctly, doesn’t support a lock code manager, and keeps sending spurious Zigbee messages every minute. The other 4 modules all work as expected.

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Hi,

Can You maybe take and post pictures of the stickers?

I’m curious because I seem to have a middle version. Mine does locking/unlocking and it does report who has unlocked/locked, but the lock code manager always gives a error when I try to add a code.

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Hi,

These are the stickers

4128×3096 650 KB

4128×3096 747 KB

The second one, with V261 sticker is the module that works fine in Hubitat.

Note that both modules also have identical stickers on the bottom side which state V258.

I dont know if there is a way to update the firmware on these modules.

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Hi @Metropolis ,

Sorry, just to clarify, is it possible to put a Z-wave module 2 into a US yale smartlock? I would like to use one of these Yale Assure Locks… YRD226NR605 www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06Y999M1T/ref=ask_ql_qh_dp_hza

Any help will be really appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

Craig

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US and European modules seem to be differently shaped (I have only seen pictures) so unfortunately I don’t think it’s possible to use European modules in US lock.
US lock with US zigbee module works with my uk Smart things hub v2

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Thanks for getting back to me. That’s great to know. I think that’s the way I’ll go. Much appreciated.

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@CraigRichard @poisike
US, UK/EU and Australian modules are all different shapes - deliberately so so as to prevent using the wrong one for your country. This is because each of these regions uses different Z-Wave frequencies as an example.

Whilst Yale do not make a UK/EU Zigbee model at all it does occur to me that unlike Z-Wave the Zigbee frequency is the same all around the world. Therefore in theory it would be technically and legally possible to get and use a US model deadbolt lock, fit the Zigbee module and use that in the UK.

It should however be noted that a US deadbolt is a different shape to a UK mortice lock. They are similar but a UK mortice lock is a rectangle in shape whereas a US deadbolt is more oval in shape. Your (UK) insurer might also be miffed that it is not a ‘proper’ lock as a US model will not have a BSI standard on it.

Definitely a US Z-Wave lock/module is a non-starter due to the different frequency, a UK Smartthings Hub will not even talk to a US model and as mentioned above a UK module will not fit in to a US Yale lock or vice versa.

Since the two Yale locks do not talk to each other and do not use the same Yale apps you may as well also consider other brands of UK/EU smart mortice locks like the Nuki I have suggested. This will work with a Euro Profile mortice lock and there is a Smartthings app for it.

A final consideration which you cannot do yet is the following.

In the US Yale already sell their dead bolt locks with the option to use a matching Yale August Connect module. Yale UK have recently announced they will be launching a UK equivalent of this module which will have a slightly different name of Yale Access Module. These work via a matching August/Access bridge device.

Hypothetically a US Yale dead bolt and a UK Yale Night latch with respectively a Yale August Connect and Yale Access module connected via the same bridge might be possible. As far as I can tell the August Connect module, the bridge and the Yale Access module all use WiFi and hence this should be possible and legal. You could then in theory link to the lock(s) over a network connection via the bridge and a suitable Smartthings app.

See this about UK launch


See this showing an existing US bridge

As you will see the bridge looks the same. This despite being on the Amazon UK website is the US model.

It could be that this approach might have overlooked by the Yale engineers and the app or bridge might get confused and reject one or the other.

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I know this is an old thread but I just stumbled upon it after wasting a small amount of cash on the assure SL and a couple of modules.
I bought the lock ages ago and can’t even remember where from, probably someone on this thread :rofl:.
I decided to power it up a couple of days ago and that’s when I learned US and European z-wave are different frequencies. So, the American z-wave module does not work in the UK.
I asked in a few groups and it seems the UK z-wave module can be removed from the housing and will fit the 8 pin plug in the lock. I bought one from Amazon and tried it, it does not work. You get to menu 7 but it always produces the error tone.
So, I’m now considering buying the August WiFi and Bluetooth module from Amazon US but to be honest I’ve wasted enough money. I think the lock goes back in the drawer for now.
I hope someone out there will read this and tell me the August module will work and then maybe I’ll have a go. Right now it’s about $95 including postage and tax.

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… or buy a US SmartThings hub…