This is new:
So if you were waiting on a v2 hub, or TV integration, you could get this instead.
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Everything points to SmartThings falling out of favor with Samsung. Notice that all recently announced integrations are with third-party devices and services. No new integrations with Samsung-branded devices. Even those that were announced last year are all but scrapped. I wonât be surprised if Samsung will be looking to spin off SmartThings or offload it to the highest bidder in the near future.
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More like boxee. Absorb the key engineers, and can the rest. Kill off base product and rely on others for hardware. As seen by the stealth announcement of nvidia shield as a hub integration.
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Many conflicting reports on what exactly the Nvidia device is going to have. There are no details officially released.
One set of journalist reports says that it will include hardware that will be the equivalent of a smartthings hub.
But another set of journalist reports says that the SmartThings integration will be through the Google assistant which they are adding to android TV.
Since it also features Google Assistant, it is also compatible with Samsungâs SmartThings platform, letting you control your smart home.
If the first group is right, this becomes a hub replacement. But if the second group is right, you would still need a SmartThings hub.
Has anybody seen an official Nvidia announcement that clarifies this? Itâs a big difference.
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Nvidia press release stated it would be able to act as a hub and control devices.
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I know, but a lot of people say the echo âacts as a hub.â It doesnât have a Z wave radio.
And âhubâ is a term to get used a lot with regard to home theaters, when what they really mean is âcontrol center.â
Iâm not saying it wonât have radios in it, I just havenât seen any engineering specs that say it will,
And the same official release said that there would be an over the air update to existing Nvidia shield devices that would give them all of the new features except hands-free listening. If thatâs true, no radios.
But weâll see.
Just confirmed it will support the USB extend dongle to enable hub radios. Nvidia shield plus USB extend equals a new hub.
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Thanks for checking. Very interesting! Just as interesting that this wasnât a big SmartThings announcementâŚ
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Yeah, it also means that the extend USB support for Samsung TVs will probably launch after Nvidia Shield TV support⌠Hmmmmm, wonder if it really is that easy to develop on Tizen vs Android (Shield runs android tv)?
Can confirm @pstuart statment. Have a friend sitting in a demo with Nvidia right now txtâing me. He sees the usb stick right in front of him⌠I was like, well you are probably the only person seeing one lol
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Got my friend to take a quick little sneaky snap⌠I mean it is a presser so its not like its meant to be secret.
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i was about to say, the spec sheet on their website only lists wifi, Bluetooth and Captive portal support. No z-wave or zigbee radios.
Yeah, theyâre solving that with the dongle which has both a zigbee radio and a zwave radio.
BTW, Nortek had a nearly identical dongle out before the SmartThings extend.
If this works as intended I might replace my ST hub with a shield.
I mean i like the ideaâŚcause I could reduce one hub, and replace a firetv. But at the same time Iâd be more worried about end of life on that product. Even for a âsoftâ launch of a productâŚthis is the softest. Is it really out or notâŚwhy are other devs âpartneringâ and we cant buy it, nor is the parent company really doing anything with the extend. So I dont know. Seems like a pipe dream. And Iâd have to migrate to a stick, have it go EOL, and have to migrate to another hubâŚprobably without a migration assistant. And im still on a v1 hubâŚ
Isnât the USB extend limited by way of devices it can connect to?
The extend page states âselected devicesâ which turns out to be quite small!
The page that youâre referring to is specific to the Extend->Samsung TV integration which is currently in closed beta.
We have not made any announcements about device compatibility for any other Extend integrations.
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Letâs call this what it is. A good look to the future. When the ST Hub went version 2, it created a more modular design where the âHub softwareâ is running on an OS that has an interface to some radios. The OS no longer matters, especially if you are putting it into a container, think docker. And that is where STs has the real intellectual property. Then all you need is the radios, here is the extend stick. I see them moving to a subscription to connect to the buisness end of the ST infrastructure, and you can pick what ever HW you have to run the local communcation. then plug in the extend or other future supported radio stick and you are rolling.
Since the paired zwave/zigbee radio is in a stick and the hub would be a container⌠move your stick and digitally move the container, migration over.
What do yall think?
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I think you are right.
Personally, I think margins on the Hub hardware are far too low to justify SmartThings as a business (Iâve said this many times). Sales of sensors and other end-point hardware have higher margins but a lot of competition.
So the potential revenue is in the âplatformâ ⌠i.e., the cloud, the services, support, etc⌠Currently the cloud is âfree for lifeâ. That rules out all revenue except data sales and add-on services.
So ⌠fee based cloud? More likely than not. Or call it 50/50. Dunno.
Rather donât care. Why am I posting anyway. Yawn.
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I think thatâs what theyâve already done with the SAMIio/Artik/SmartThings Cloud
The question has always been How/if the current hub platform fits into that.
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