What is the best smoke dictator for the UK that works with SmartThings - I know the Nest devices work but they’re very expensive. Are their any alternatives?
They only work if you had a nest developer account set up before August 31, 2019 and had them connected to ST. After that date, you are out of luck in regards to connecting them to ST. 
Are you looking for this?
Or this?
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As of this writing (2019) The Fibaro Smoke Sensor is the only one with an official SmartThings integration. It’s a good zwave device and popular in the U.K. (Note that there is no US version.)
https://www.smartthings.com/gb/products/fibaro-smoke-sensor
There are several other zwave smoke sensors made for the U.K., including Heiman, Popp, Vision, and Zwave.me , but I’ve only seen integrations for the Heiman, and I don’t know how well they work.
For something as important as fire safety, I’d stick with official integrations. Or get a good one like Nest and don’t integrate it with ST for any essential functions. JMO
You could also look at Spruce FireAngel smoke alarms, they work in SmartThings
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Hadn’t seen that one, thanks! 
@Andrew2014
Many thanks for the heads up about Sprue FireAngel. I am in the UK like presumably you. With Google messing about with Nest this maybe a worthy alternative.
I see that they not only offer Z-Wave options but also Zigbee and an even bigger bonus they have mains powered versions as well although it is not clear their mains powered version supports these modules. I suspect they may only offer a European Z-Wave option since they are a UK company.
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Has anyone actually got a FireAngel? I have tried contacting the company a few times now with no reply about buying the Z-wave/Zigbee add on but not had anything back? Would really love to have this installed in my house/setup.
@AverageJoe90
I have not tried contacting them myself yet. They list a phone number on their website.
tel:02477717570
I currently have working Nest Protect units as I added mine to Smartthings prior to Google’s changes. I am also considering using either HomeAssistant or StarlingHome hub to add them to HomeKit.
If however Google conspire to further make integrating them impossible I may explore Fire Angel further. My main concern over Fire Angel is that it looks like either you can get a model which links multiple units together or you can get a model which supports either Zigbee or Z-Wave but not both.
Nest Protect of course does link all the units together. This means when one detects smoke all of them sound the alarm.
I’m looking myself and I’ve tried contacting FireAngel too but had no response. Was looking at Nest Protect but there’s no ST integration as far as I’m aware unless you have an old nest account?
I have sent another email to Fireangel this time to all the regional contacts and their tech support, lets see if they reply now!
Update - Well, it seems every tom dick and harry is replying now so shot myself in the foot! Seems they only sell to wholesalers so im asking who at the moment.
Update - Contacted buy the regional sales team who sell only to wholesalers however very helpful in finding me one. Very knowledgeable on the phone, I am waiting on a price from local seller. Will update when I know more. At this stage i am very hopeful.
@mcarroll779 @AverageJoe90
I currently have couple of Nest which at the moment still work with Smartthings as I have not converted my account but I have been keeping my eyes open on alternative like FireAngel. I initially found FireAngel with regards to the fact they are available in the UK - or at least some models and have Z-Wave and Zigbee modules for some of their products.
However I today again came across mention of them and this triggered a closer look at their Connected Pro range with the Wi-Safe2 gateway. Their Connected Pro range can be linked together so if one sensor is triggered they all sound off - something Nest does as well. However the Connected Pro range also has the Wi-Safe2 gateway which sends notifications to their own smartphone app. They explicitly make it clear their alarms still work even if your Internet goes down. Some details are available here.
They mention both IFTTT and Smartthings but sadly their website says at the moment neither are officially supported although I am hoping this maybe out of date. They also mention Amazon Alexa support. It maybe an enterprising user could decipher their gateways traffic and work out a way of talking to it directly.
I also found another different contact phone number possibly specific to the Connect Pro range which is 03300945830.
In theory the fact the Connect Pro range uses a gateway would lend it adding HomeKit support to the gateway although I suspect that is unlikely to happen.
I have been using this fireangel model (z-wave module). Worked great one year until it triggered the automation I have setup in ST although no smoke was detected by the device
The automation setup was:
If any smoke sensor detects smoke -> send notification text “smoke detected” + turn on (selected) lights)
The automation was falsely triggered 10 times in 5 minutes, although none of the smoke sensors detected smoke. So there was no “real” sounding alarm
I got new smoke sensor for replacement since I thought it was a hardware issue, but after two months the exact same issue happened again. So it seems like there is likely a ST integration issue
Anyone had similar experiences?