Anyone have a project with water shutoff?


(Chris Perry ) #1

Hey all. I am thinking of waiting for the new hub version and then I’d like to create a project where I can monitor our acreage water system by monitoring leaks and possibly a high level in my septic to eliminate back up. Also monitor power outtages and temp in the house. Then from there build on with the fun additions. Does anyone have any setups they can recommend for this? Cheers.


(Coolcatiger) #2

I am waiting for this


(Brice; SmartRulesApp.com) #3

I’ve had the LeakSmart sitting next to my desk for a couple weeks now, but haven’t gotten around to installing it yet. If I get to it this weekend, I’ll let you know how it goes.

http://www.lowes.com/pd_579898-255-8810300L_0__?productId=50134588


(ActionTiles.com co-founder Terry @ActionTiles; GitHub: @cosmicpuppy) #4

The shutoff device on that Project is off-the-shelf from China (Alibaba, etc.).

I’m interested in the non-invasive meter sensor, though. Curious if it reading magnetic flux or audio click detection.


(Brice; SmartRulesApp.com) #5

Oh, sorry. I misread. This just does on/off, not monitoring.


(Jeff DeWolfe) #6

Pretty sure it is reading the magnetic flux. I have also backed this project.


(ActionTiles.com co-founder Terry @ActionTiles; GitHub: @cosmicpuppy) #7

I’ve been curious if this were possible on every diverse type of water meter out there, especially since some are now attached to Electronic wireless transmission by the utilities.

I’ll have to try some experiments.


(Chris Perry ) #8

This is I believe my best solution. If it can talk to the smartthings hub and the water moisture sensors and shut my water off when moisture is detected then that’s all I want. The other one that attaches to a water meter won’t work as I don’t have a water meter being on an acreage. I would just have to decide where would be the best place to mount it. Before my pressure tank and switch or after. If I do it before than it would eliminate the possibility of say the pressure tank or inlet fitting leaking and then shutting the valve the pump would still just keep pumping. But then if I mount it before the pressure tank and switch, when it senses and closes while the pump is pumping the pressure switch will never sense it pressure up so the pump will just keep trying to pump deadheading. Anyone have thoughts on this?


(Jared) #9

I’ve also backed Water Hero. I’ve talked with Alex, and he says they plan to make a Z-Wave module for it. We’ll see.

The analytics in it interest me.


(Chris Perry ) #10

Which shutoff device are you speaking of being from China. Doesn’t most of our products now a days come from China lol.


(Chris Perry ) #11

Baconface I am curious if you would know if this water hero needs to attach to a water meter as I had mentioned this is not an option for me as my water is not metered being on an acreage with well supply.


(ActionTiles.com co-founder Terry @ActionTiles; GitHub: @cosmicpuppy) #12

Yes… Saying it was from China wasn’t particularly clarifying.

The valve control in the project is not a valve replacement like in many other solutions (like the one sold at Lowes for Iris at $159).

Instead it just uses a motor and roller grasper to move an existing lever valve. That may be more or less reliable… I don’t know.

You can get this type of shutoff adapter with cheap 433Mhz home automation kits, sold on eBay, etc.

I am suspicious of the quality.


(Jared) #13

Water Hero includes an motor to turn a ball valve and a sensor that attaches to a water meter to check usage. It does require a water meter because it measures the spinning magnet inside the meter.

LeakSmart demoed a device that attached to your water line to monitor flow, but I don’t think it ever came to market. I just did a quick Googling, and I can’t find anything on it.


(Brice; SmartRulesApp.com) #14

Oh, ok, then yes, this one should work for you. I’ve got the same situation as you described. I’m planning on putting it after the pressure tank, mainly because thats where the main valve currently sits, and because its an easier location for the install.