Anyone gotten new LE "Lighting Ever" A19 960 lumens smart bulb to work with SmartThings?

Has anyone gotten this bulb to work directly with SmartThings (without the LE hub)? It’s full god-awful-long Amazon name is: “LE A19 E26 Smart LED Light Bulb, Wireless ZigBee Home Automation,10W, 960lm, Warm White 3000K, Dimmable, 75W Incandescent Bulbs Equivalent”.

Model 900008-WW. It is $15 on Amazon (unavailable at the moment) and here’s its LE page.

While all its own documentation says to use it with LE’s hub, it is a Zigbee bulb, and the third Amazon review appears to say it works directly with Wink.There also seems to be a rumor(?) it can work with SmartThings, which caused at least one reviewer (and me) to buy it, but I can’t find any actual SmartThings supportive info on the web. (It’s hard to search on seeing as how it has no precise name, and “LE” is pretty worthless to search on.)

Seeing as it’s only $15, I got one, but my SmartThings hub could not find it. Not with a general search, and not if I tried many of the existing smart bulb device searches. (Although it does simply power on fine in dumb mode, so at least it seems to be working.)

I could really use this because I need more lumens than the 60W-equivalent that every A19 smart bulb on the market seems to be (~800 lumens). In fact I’d like a dimmable 1200 lumens A19 smart bulb, but if 960 lumens is all I can find and it’s just $15, I’ll give it a shot.

Wondering if I wasted my cash now.

Almost all the Amazon reviews, including a comment from the distributor, say that it needs its own smart hub.

The one Amazon review that says it “works with Wink and SmartThings” maybe from someone who just went by the “zigbee home automation” description and hasn’t actually tried it.

In this case, I believe the distributor. I don’t think it’s compatible with SmartThings. :disappointed_relieved:

edited to note @RedKnight 's corrections. :sunglasses:

Thanks for the quick reply JD,

If you’re talking about “Geeked Out Reviews” replying that a comment was off-topic, that was in response to an old question. The comment asking about it working with Wink, I asked this morning. :slight_smile:

Thanks, though. Otherwise,

If anyone has been able to get this to work, please speak up.

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I’ve mentioned before that there’s a lot of confusion about the ZHA profile.

The zigbee standard allows for different profiles, including manufacturer proprietary ones, and they don’t all talk to each other. They don’t even have the same addressing schemes.

Several times when dealing with Chinese vendors I have found that they think that if their device uses zigbee and its purpose is home automation that then it is certified for “zigbee home automation”. Which it may not be.

Smartthings uses the ZHA 1.2 profile, which stands for zigbee home automation but is a very specific standard.

When dealing with any vendor who doesn’t show the ZHA profile logo ( The zigbee logo plus an additional house image) , I always ask to see their certification before ordering.

Each profile has its own individual logo.

( The logos will change again with zigbee 3.0, but we aren’t there yet.)

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Thanks again JD … the tips on the logos are very useful.

The Chinese stuff seems like a real wild west situation. There are obviously quite talented designers there, but then there’s a huge gap between who makes, and who sells it, and especially, how much attention to detail and how much information is produced and propagates down the chain. And by extension, how much they effectively seem to care about that information. Not just for SH, but in lots of other consumer electronics. I often see products that clearly had to have taken some real skill to make, but you will see a dozen resellers (often with different names), every one of whom only has the same dumbed-down “glossy” but useless buzzword sales information. I am usually the opposite of gambling on whether I can get something to work how I need it. But I took an exception this time since I can’t believe there’s no E26 smart home bulbs 1100 or preferably 1200 lumens or much higher (75 watt equivalent or much better). This one was only $15.

Oh well. Ultimately we all wish everyone well that can make something good, regardless of where they’re from.

Thanks for the recommend on the LIFX Color 1000 but it’s just too much of a stretch (monetarily and functionally).

Maybe the “luminosity ceiling” is a heat problem but if it is, surely it’s not a big challenge. Don’t make excuses for them, hehe. To me it seems like just another example of the very limited smart home device choices once you scratch the surface. All the smart lighting companies make an 800 lumen E26/27 smart bulb. Almost nobody makes hardly any other lumens, higher or lower. They all “made their smart bulb”. Compare the choices for dumb LED E26/27 bulbs. Hundreds, thousands, of every type, shape, and luminosity.

Yes, SH is a much smaller market. But that alone can explain why there’s a much smaller selection. I wouldn’t chalk up to technical challenges something easily explained by what happens everywhere else in the smart home device arena.

eh, there’s the two cents of Mr. Crotchety, heh. Thanks again for all your great help!

Marketing people make excuses.
Engineers state specifications. :wink:

Or as one of my old professors used to say: physics counts.

One of the main reasons that hardware is hard is because there are real physics limitations to much of what can be accomplished, at least to what can be accomplished cheaply and easily.

When you see just about everybody in a device class doing things the same way, it’s often a physics limitation. Or at least a physics – meets – budget limitation. :sunglasses: