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Things I like BETTER about the new app vs Classic

If I understand your question correctly. In things in the new app you can see both Life360 and the OLD app location as devices and they show status. In the new app automations you can select based on device status and use those there. The new app location can be used in an automation from the Based on a member’s location. But I don’t see it in the things list. However it does show up in the old app under things. Kinda weird.

Hope I understood what you were asking.

Weird, I had Life360 connected, both users showed up, but if I clicked them it threw an error and wouldn’t load, and the status didn’t change in the new app, and they were not available for automations. I went to old app, deleted both devices, uninstalled the Life360 app, then went to the new app, turned on locations, and then I can’t see the status, but I can use the phones in automations. I did it all last night and haven’t left the house yet today, so no idea how well it works.

I just assumed they would kill Life360 support and “try” to make Locations work themselves, all that data they will want like everyone else with a mobile app, and it makes tighter integrations easier. The fact they have a “add location” means maybe they will do more with location, if I was them I would, never understood why they couldn’t get that code stable, it’s not that difficult, personally done it i iOS and Android before, use to be a developer, now a boring manager who makes PowerPoints and plays with SmartThings :slight_smile:

Strange. In the old Classic app I can see all 3 location devices, Life360, Old app, New app. In the new Connect app I can see Life360 and Old app. The new app location doesn’t show up in the device list but I can use it in an automation under based on someone’s location. The old app and Life360 show up in automations under device status I can select left or arrived. I am using Android it that makes any difference.

I suggest you guys start a new thread for using presence in the new app, as you are flooding this one and it’s starting to get pretty off-topic.


Re: meet and greet at SDC…

Could you please also raise the issue of the migration of custom DTHs. This is a deal breaker for many folks on the forum.


All General discussion of the new app, including missing features, features you would like to see, and what @tgauchat should talk to the SmartThings staff about :wink: should go in the general discussion thread, not this one.

Or feel free to start a new thread for discussion of any specific feature or issue.

Please re-read the topic title and post 1 in this thread if you are not sure what belongs here. Thanks!

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Got it, will switch to a topic if we need to go further, but I understand now, you used it as a device status, not location, that is what I was doing wrong.

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I deleted my large list and moved it to the other thread, I would do the same for my Geo conversation, but I can’t control responses, so it would make thread fragmented, feel free to delete or move

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I hope you don’t mind the “reasonable selfishness” here. ActionTiles needs to focus on advocating our own needs. We aren’t custom DTH developers, so it would not be efficient use of our time to distract the people we contact with questions in this regard.

Understood. Hope you didn’t mind me asking on the off chance…

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No problem.

We definitely will attend the various sessions, etc., and keep our ears open to all kinds of chatter, and will share anything that’s not confidential.


Am I crazy or does the smart lighting on the new app not include a wakeup light feature? Or do I need to do it custom now for some reason?

I don’t think it has ever included a wake up light. Maybe that’s a separate smart app you are using?

Yeah I’m not sure, I’m just patiently waiting for it to show up. Us poor Europeans have to wait so long for everything.

OK, this one is a matter of taste, but I personally like the fact that the new app has insecure rejoin for zigbee disabled by default, while the classic has it enabled by default.

I have no idea what happens if you’re using both apps on the same account.

The new app is a mess. A lot of my devices will not load and since I have so many devices, Rooms is essential for getting to things quick.

New app, can’t logically navigate quickly…


I’ll be completely transparent about my bias here. The more awkward the SmartThings App is for “everyday use”, the more valuable that Customers will find ActionTiles to be.

With unlimited custom Panels in any layout you want, we give you even more than just “Rooms”. Any Thing can be in any number of Panels (even Things from multiple Accounts & Locations). So you can have Things organized by physical Room, and also by functionality (e.g,. a “Security Panel” that shows all your door and window sensors; a “Battery & Temperature Panel”, a Panel tailed for the children in the house, etc., etc.). … (4.9-Stars Rated on Facebook with over 180 ratings / reviews / recommendations).


Complaints and critiques go in a different thread. From the first post here:

There’s been a lot of discussion about the negatives of the new app, so I thought I’d start one about the positives. Who knows, maybe there is some SmartThings dev out there that is having a bad day and will read this and feel better :slightly_smiling_face: Feel free to add your feedback and let’s keep this thread positive!

Thanks! :sunglasses:

And here’s the thread where you can post your critiques:


Did you hit the like button?..:roll_eyes:

Bringing this back on topic, the new app lets you take still shots for Ring devices that allow video streaming