ST-compatible duplex wall outlet w/smart plug on top?


(Dan P Parker) #1

As the title states, I need a ST-compatible duplex wall outlet for my kitchen, with the outlet configured such that the top plug is the smart one. Z-Wave (plus or otherwise) would be preferred (the target location would be a good spot for a repeater in my home), but Zigbee or WiFi would be acceptable if that’s all I can find. I’ve been searching for such a beast, but to no avail so far. All the units I’ve found make the bottom plug the smart one. And, no, installing one of those upside down isn’t an option.

So…do any of you smart carbon units know of such a thing?

ETA: OK, so I just stumbled across the Insteon 2663-222, which allows you to configure either of the receptacles as either smart or dumb, which is even better. Not ST-compatible, but at least someone is doing what I need. Still looking.

ETA part deux: Now it looks like the Leviton DZR15-1RZ might be the ticket.


#2

Leviton DZR15, top

Leviton VRR15, can be installed either way

Eaton Cooper RTR9505, can be installed either way

Intermatic HA01, top IIRC, but be aware that this has a very noticeable click when it’s turned on or off

ShowHome has a Z wave plus model certified which allows control of both outlets, but I don’t know if it’s actually for sale yet


(Dan P Parker) #3

[quote=“JDRoberts, post:2, topic:85665”]
Leviton DZR15, top

Leviton VRR15, can be installed either way

Eaton Cooper RTR9505, can be installed either way

Intermatic HA01, top IIRC, but be aware that this has a very noticeable click when it’s turned on or off

ShowHome has a Z wave plus model certified which allows control of both outlets, but I don’t know if it’s actually for sale yet[/quote]

Thanks! The VRR15 is nice and flexible, but too expensive (yes, the per-zwave-plug cost is cheaper, but I have no need for 2 smart outlets in the target locations). I can’t find the Eaton Cooper unit anywhere, and despite the “Buy from amazon.com” link the ShowHome is not yet available (at least not via Amazon). So…I went ahead and pulled the trigger on the DVR15.

But thanks for the options.


(Dan P Parker) #4

Well, I just thought I’d follow up on this by saying that I finally got around to installing the DZR15 and…so far, so good. My only complaint at this point is that as nice a safety feature as the tamper-resistant socket is, it’s not a smoothly working mechanism and it makes it very difficult to insert a plug, no matter how evenly I have the prongs lined up. The first time I plugged in my under-cabinet lighting I thought I was going to break something.


#5

I hate tamper-resistant plugs. :rage: They’re almost impossible for me to use, I actually got a disability exemption to our local code when I had some new Wall outlets put in so we didn’t have to use the tamper resistant ones. The Electrician made a video of me trying to use a tamper resistant plug (my hands shake a lot) and the exemption was approved. Sort of like not getting a childproof medication bottle cap.


(Dan P Parker) #6

It’s one of those good ideas that nobody seems to be able to execute well.


#7

The U.K. has had these for ages, but they’re designed differently. It’s the longer ground pin that opens the shutters.

In fact, most electrical engineers in the UK feel that adding an additional “child proof” lock to the UK plug will make it less safe. This is been a big public information campaign for about eight years, but people still buy the extra child safety device.

http://www.fatallyflawed.org.uk

As far as the US, this is an ongoing discussion right now for many people, particularly those building accessible housing units:


(Dan P Parker) #8

Which makes sense, and would be great if all you used with it was 3-pronged plugs.