That’s a possibility with any piece of software you buy… heck, it’s also a possibility that SmartThings will go out of business and we’ll all be screwed
Since Smartrules is a paid app, I feel pretty confident that @obycode will stick around for the foreseeable future. I’d worry more about the plethora of free, community-created apps by volunteer developers. SmartThings would face a pretty serious backlash if they started breaking community apps every time they added some functionality to the core software. When they added SHM, they didn’t break Smart Alarm (which remains a free, community-developed app).
True, always a possibility suppose, let’s hope ST grows and grows! Have to get in more than just Currys in UK though, strange strange decision to still just be in here.
Again I’m just learning, great resource the community. Can I ask what does smart alarm do that SHM doesn’t then, or vice versa.
SHM is the SmartThings-designed alarm system, and is required if you’re going to use one of the paid monitoring services (which I don’t believe are available in the UK anyway). Smart Alarm is a community-created app that predates SHM by a couple years. Smart Alarm is now an official Smart App, so you don’t need to copy-paste any code. Smart Alarm has many features (entry delay, being the biggest one) that SHM doesn’t have. More info here: https://github.com/statusbits/smartthings/blob/master/SmartAlarm.md
To avoid cluttering up this thread, you can find more discussion about Smart Alarm here:
I was asking above about the trigger. I’ve created as rule, but as you said it can be “any of these” to trigger. What about AND for trigger? I can’t seem to find it?
Is it not possible for a trigger to have something like "motion and open sensor then do this?
No, the triggers can only be “any”, because a trigger is an instantaneous event, its not possible for two to happen at the same exact time. It sounds like you might want something like:
if this happens:
door sensor opens
while this is true:
motion is detecting motion
then do this:
do something
Also, forgot to answer this question earlier:
Definitely. Just be sure to tag me in any new discussions to be sure I see it.
Was the update pushed through for the timed rules?
Will this be in the “lite” version? I want to make sure this can completely substitute Rule Machine before I purchase the app.
They told me the update was pushed live, but I don’t think it actually is. I’m working on getting more info from them, so I won’t make the iOS update live until I’ve verified that the SmartApp update is live.
Yes, well, sort of… So actually what we’ve done is gotten rid of the Lite version and made the main version free with an in-app purchase to get unlimited rules. So yes, you will be able to get it for free including all currently available features, it’ll just be limited to 1 rule unless you purchase.
@obycode If triggers can only be “any”, and a trigger is required (can’t just use conditions), then how can I implement a rule such that when both my phone and my wife’s phone leaves, then do this?
Also, is there any release notes for 2.0, and how will we know when we have it? Will just the SmartApp change, or the iOS app as well?
This is very similar to a question I just answered in another topic - Rule Builder iOS app
Basically, you’ll use both the triggers and the conditions. The triggers make the rule fire, and when the rule fires, the conditions are checked. So your rule could look like this:
if any of these happen:
John leaves
Jane leaves
while ALL of these are true:
John is not present
Jane is not present
then do this:
// do something
Yes, it should be available now. If the app is not showing as free, please wait for the price change to propagate through the store. It seems to be a problem for some.
Does SmartRules 2.0 have the option for Beep and Flash? Example in Rule Machine I could have my siren beep using the speak command using the Audio Device which was my Aeon Siren. Also I am able to flash a hall light that has the device capability when entering my home with Smart Alarm?
