Smart Recessed Lighting advice needed

Hello everyone!

I’m redoing an addon to our house and figured it might be a good time to start moving towards adding smart lighting to the room!

I started looking at several options but they all seem to have pros and cons. Ideally, I’d love to have RGBW lights in the room but, honestly, I probably don’t NEED the colors, just thought they’d be fun (so if those bulbs cause more problems than they’re worth, maybe just white smart lights makes more sense).

Here were some of the things I looked at:

Individual RGB lights - Sylvania RBG recessed lights
Pros: Pretty decent price for 6 of them ($70 on amazon), has RGB and can pair each with the hub directly, can change the colors and color temperature
Cons: I’ve read these have issues turning ALL the way off, concerned about being able to sync them (since they’re individual lights), sounds like the colors aren’t as dynamic as the regular lightify rgb bulbs

Indidual non RGB lights - Halo RL56
Pros: Seems to have pretty good reviews, sounds like it has good integration with smartthings, color temperature adjustment down to 2700K
Cons: More expensive at about $20 each, not sure how easy these will be to sync up

Some sort of pseudo hub system to keep them synced up (like philips hue)
Pros: Seems like a potentially good way to keep the bulbs up, possibly create zones/scenese
Cons: I don’t know much about this setup so I might need to do some more research/get more suggestions

Use some sort of smartswitch to control the individual bulbs
Pros: Would be easy to link with smartthings
Cons: Not sure how easy integration would be

Basically, I have lots of options and thought I’d pop my head in to see if anyone has some recommendations on the best way to approach this. If you need any additional information before you can make suggestions, let me know. Thanks so much in advance for all your help!

I recommend Sengled BR30’s. Full color and adjustable white. Easily match each other for color. I now have all my indoor can lights switched to these (13 of them). They’re Zigbee lights and often on sale.

What do you use for a fixture with those? And how do you setup scenes/sync them up together?

The BR30 fits in a typical recessed fixture. I had LED can lights installed when I built my house. They’re inexpensive builder grade (bought in bulk) can fixtures.

The lights can be synced into a group within the Smart Things app (new v3), though the majority of my scenes are setup with Alexa.

If the lights are turned off at the switch, they’ll remember their last setting when the switch is turned back on. They’re end device Zigbee, so if they’re off they won’t kill your network.

Anyone know if these are zigbee repeaters? I have one installed but don’t have many zigbee devices yet. Is there a way to check this in the parameters in the samsung account online?

EDIT: found the answer here. “When receiving power, this device will act as a signal repeater to extend the range of your ZigBee mesh network.”

When you check a device in IDE, you’ll see if it is a ROUTER or SLEEPY_END_DEVICE.

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Cool. Then it is a repeater -

And so is the ecosmart A19 light bulb (that comes with the remote).

Might not be great for those to be though since my kids sometimes turn off the lights. seems it would be disruptive to the network to come on and off.

I found out from the manufacturer that: " Yes, AC-powered HALO Zigbee devices act as repeaters, but only repeat messages for other HALO Zigbee products". So…not, it really isn’t a repeater unless you are heavily invested in the Halo ecosystem.

Reviving this thread to report this is NOT accurate. I’ve been having fits with my Zigbee network after moving to a new house and having 30 or so of these lights installed. I discovered in the IDE tonight that the Halos are repeating to my Sengled lamp bulbs, which I have struggled to keep connected. Well, the light switches often get turned off. Now I’ll likely be pulling a dozen of the lights out and putting in dumb lights.
The extremely irritating thing is the cans in this house are not compatible with my old Sengled BR30s which were amazing.

If you like the smart recessed lights other than the fact that people keep turning them off at the switch, you can use a smart switch cover to prevent that. These are available from several different manufacturers now, with different form factors.

The simplest, least expensive is the go control Z wave two button switch cover. Zwave Products usually has these on sale for less than $15 each.

There’s also the Ecolink toggle style:

https://www.amazon.com/Ecolink-Z-Wave-Automated-Lighting-TLS-ZWAVE5/dp/B0716YVRCV

You could also use the inovelli mains-powered zwave switch configured to smart bulb mode:

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There are a couple of other options if you’re interested. It’s basically the same issue as finding a wall controller for any smart bulb, except that you can’t use the options that only work with a Hue bridge. :sunglasses:

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