Hi,
My friend own Samsung Refrigerator model RF88DB9623BK.
Integration with Smartthings app is working fine and many thing can be controlled
see in the following picture:
My friend want to control this feature from Automation. Is there any SW Eng, from SmartThings that can modify the driver and allow using Shabbat Mode also in automation. The idea is to be able to Set On in Fridays evenings (just before Saturday start) and set to Off in Saturday evening. @nayelyz@Itati maybe you evaluate this issue to the correct team.
Sorry, but this kind of integration belongs to the manufacturer, in this case Samsung, so, we cannot help you create a feature request to add a “Setting”/”Preference” to be part of the device’s presentation in the Automation section.
You need to contact their Customer Support team directly to request this functionality to be part of the device’s presentation (Automation section). That would require using a capability with the same functionality as the setting.
Just as a heads up, once you’ve requested it, it can take a while to be implemented (if approved).
Can you describe what this setting does to see if there’s an alternative? For example, if it sets the capabilities to certain values at certain times, we can see if it’s possible using the Rules API.
Thank you @nayelyz@nayelyz. I have no idea how to contact Samsung support to someone that actually reply and will change the integration with the refrigerator.
As for your question this is what Shabbat mode means, this is translation of what my friend wrote me:
In Sabbath mode, several functions are disabled for 80 hours. For example:
Interior lighting
Ice making
Water dispensing
Various other sensors that the Zomet Institute requested to disable.
In short, it can be seen as a kind of vacation mode for 85 hours, during which the refrigerator operates in a more energy-efficient mode and then automatically returns to normal operation.
The logic behind this is that there can be a situation of two consecutive holiday days followed immediately by Shabbat — which totals 72 hours…
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In Sabbath mode, several functions are disabled for 85 hours.
For example:
Interior lighting
Ice making
Water dispensing
Various other sensors that the Zomet Institute requested to disable.
In short, it can be seen as a kind of vacation mode for 85 hours, during which the refrigerator operates in a more energy-efficient mode and then automatically returns to normal operation.
The logic behind this is that there can be a situation of two consecutive jews holiday days followed immediately by Shabbat — which totals 72 hours…
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Thank you for the details. Based on your description, it seems highly unlikely the options to enable/disable those options through an automation is possible.
Since the Sabbath mode is a setting, it must be used by the internal code of the device, to stop/start those functions.
For something to be used in automation, it must be exposed in capabilities and even so, not all react to commands from the API because appliances work on the SmartThings app level, not the API level.
I’m guessing you don’t see those options like turning on/off the interior lighting through Routines, right?
No, turning on/off the interior lighting function can not be control from routines and also the other functions that mentioned. Still this functions are very important for Israelis (less for others in the world).
Can you please forward our request to someone from Samsung (which own SmartThings) , so this feature can be controlled by routines as well.
You can’t change device preferences through Rules based automations, but you can certainly change them with a single API call, and a public one at that which uses the well known gizmo tweak. So that might open up some options for you. It sounds like the sort of thing Jake may have added to his Tasker library thing.
There is probably a Client API way of doing this too but I try to avoid using that if I can.
Why this functionality isn’t front and centre in the public API is a mystery. It seems like something that ought to be in Rules too, especially when they are known use cases like this one.
Having said all that, the Samsung appliance integrations do seem to play by their own rules so what looks like a SmartThings device preference might not play nicely like one.
I would suggest looking into using the 3rd party rules engine sharptools.io which can access additional capabilities not exposed for automation in the ST Mobile app.